Kladionioca

**Montenegrino-CT** · 10-04-07, 07:52

Evo i ja malo danas igrao doduse ovamo u dijaspori.

Juventus:Napoli 1 (kvota 1.45)
Mancester: Roma X (kvota 2.40)
Valencia:Celzi X (kvota 2.25)
Kanada:USA 1 (hokej zene,kvota 1.55)
Finska: Svedska X (hokej zene,kvota 2.90)
Stabaek: Brann 1 (kvota 2.15)

Moguci dobitak 743 eura na ulozenih deset,dodao bih da se ovdje moze igrati max 6 timova po tiketu.

**Emill** · 10-04-07, 09:21

Tuesdays Soccer - By Chris.

Champions League - Quarter Finals, second legs

Manchester Utd - Roma 1.67 - 6.00
This I had not expected - 6.00 on the away win! At the moment Roma are as strong as United, and with United in a must win situation, Roma will be able to use their favourite weapon, the counter attack. I have said it so many times - Roma are the best counter attacking side in Europe. Roma dismissed Lyon with ease in France after scoring 2 quick goals and it could have been more during the first half hour. Roma are 2-1 after the first leg and they are my favourites to advance to the semi final.
Both Totti and Taddei will be available, Pizarro returns, but missing is the suspended Perrotta and the injured Tonetto. Could be that Roma will use the 4-2-3-1 system again, with Totti up front and the two wingers Mancini and Wilhelmsson on each side of Taddei. Daring, offensive formation.
United will be without G Neville, Vidic, Silvestre and P Scholes. L Saha will be on the bench. Assessing the odds, I have to back the away win. (6.00)

Valencia - Chelsea 2.80 - 2.75
Big odds on the home win. (2.80) The bookies have obviously decided that Chelsea are the stronger of the two, but in my opinion, nothing separates the two sides.
I guess that Valencia will address this match the same way that they did against Inter in the return leg. They managed a 2-2 draw in Italy and were looking for a 0-0 draw in the second leg. This they achieved of course, and they were never really threatened. Valencia are a pragmatic side and they will have the 0-0 result in their minds this time as well. D Villa, Joaquin, Albelda, Ayala, Miguel and Canizarez started on the bench at the weekend, when Valencia more or less gave up on their league game with A Bilbao. Well, not gave up, but they nevertheless made it easier for Atletic. Which I appreciated, by the way. They will all return tomorrow, and also Morientes will be available again, but missing are Vicente, Marchena, Baraja and Navarro
Chelsea rested a couple of players in the London derby with Tottenham. Ballack and Shevchenko were initially on the bench, and A Cole was not even included in their squad. Robben is definitely missing again, but the good news is that Essien is back in training and has travelled to Spain. I do not think that this match will end in a 0-0 draw. Chelsea have some strong individuals in their side, and the customary goal(s) will be scored. I only saw Chelsea completely toothless once this season, away to Liverpool, but they were besides their best form at that moment.
1X in my opinion, why not another 1-1 draw!

Chris.
Mozda je nerealno da dodje 2 na Romu, ali X mi se cini realan, vidjecemo, a tip dana na In tv, je Valensija X.
Pozdrav ...

**Katunjanin** · 10-04-07, 10:58

@ tricky_kid

Nisam ja nikakav strucnjak. Ali ne treba biti strucnjak za kladionicu da osjetis da oni favoriti po kvotama (gore pobrojani) nece doci. Dovoljno je da malo pratis fudbal i da shvatis da za tako male kvote ne vrijedi ih igrati.

Svi ti timovi su trebali da imaju mnooogo vece kvote za pobjedu.
Ja sam napisao da su skoro svi dosli, a ne svi. A dosli su favoriti poput Liverpula, Rome, Bayerna, Reala, Werdera, Marselja, Milana gdje su bile odlicne kvote i mnogo vece od svih ovih sto nisu dosli.

Sevilja je bila bolja od Santandera, ali ne pobjedjuje uvijek bolji tim.

**tricky_kid** · 10-04-07, 14:35

Originally Posted by Katunjanin

@ tricky_kid

Nisam ja nikakav strucnjak. Ali ne treba biti strucnjak za kladionicu da osjetis da oni favoriti po kvotama (gore pobrojani) nece doci. Dovoljno je da malo pratis fudbal i da shvatis da za tako male kvote ne vrijedi ih igrati.

Svi ti timovi su trebali da imaju mnooogo vece kvote za pobjedu.
Ja sam napisao da su skoro svi dosli, a ne svi. A dosli su favoriti poput Liverpula, Rome, Bayerna, Reala, Werdera, Marselja, Milana gdje su bile odlicne kvote i mnogo vece od svih ovih sto nisu dosli.

Sevilja je bila bolja od Santandera, ali ne pobjedjuje uvijek bolji tim.

Upravo tako, ja sam izbjegao skoro sve one favorite koje sam nabrojao, osim Mancestera i Sevilje, ali sam htio da ukazem na razliku izmedju dobrog kola, solidnog kola i nikakvog kola.
Timovi koje sam ja nabrojao su timovi iz vrha tabele u svojim ligama (npr. barselona je uvijek favorit, protiv koga god na svijetu da igra, za arsenal znam da ga je masu ljudi igralo iako sam ja tipovao X2) i ako oni ne dodju onda je kolo dobro, ali za kladionice, jer su to timovi koji se najvise igraju i od kojih se realno ocekuju pobjede uvijek i protiv svakoga.
Ja vrlo cesto dobijem kad je kolo nikakvo i kad se svi zale kako su popadali. To kolo je za mene DOBRO da ne moze bit bolje (jer sam dobio), ali za vecinu nije, a tu postoji razlika. Za tebe je proslo kolo bilo super, a za mene i dosta ljudi je bilo nikakvo, jer kiks Mancestera npr. nije ocekivan pa da su igrali sa sesnaestim timom, jer i pored Rome, mnogo im je bitna svaka utakmica u prvenstvu. Isto vazi i za Sevilju. Protiv koga ce da ceraju titulu no protiv timova iz sredine tabele. Nista drugo ja nisam rekao, niti da ti nisi u pravu sto se argumenata, zbog kojih je trebalo izbjeci pomenute timove, tice.

No dobro, svako na svoj nacin tumaci dobro kolo i lose kolo. Za mene je najbolje ono kolo koje mi donese najvise para

Za tebe to kolo moze bit najgore jer si najvise para pukao... Sve je to relativno, ali ja sam pokusao da razjasnim sto je po meni generalno dobro kolo.

Zivio

**PERPER** · 10-04-07, 14:44

Manchester - Roma 1 (Da izbaksuziram posto cu tesko pogodit)
Bajern - Milan 1
Liverpul - PSV 1+pp
Juventus - Napoli 1+pp
York - R&D 1
CSKA - Makabi +12 1

Kvota oko 25, STO DA NE

**tricky_kid** · 10-04-07, 14:59

Sto se vecerasnjih utakica tice, ja mislim da ce i Mancester i Valensija da dobiju, ali je sramna kvota na Mancester 1.7, kao da igraju protiv Portsmouth-a a ne protiv Rome

**funky^junkie** · 10-04-07, 15:21

može li taj mančester 3+?
bez vidića oni primaju golove bez problema, a isto tako imaju vrhunski napad koji zabija golove , rezultat 2:1 iz prve utakmice je takav da će u svakom trenutku neko morati da se otvara i napada bez kalkulacija, i ako mančester povede onda roma mora da juri...
jbg, još 90min je ostalo nekome, sigurno se neće čuvati za neku narednu utakmicu

chelzija moram... navijacki , a i da ne navijam za njih valensiju mrzim vishe od Zete

**cocacolica** · 10-04-07, 15:42

hm..evoi ja odigrah
mancester 1
valensija 1 a još se dvoumim dal je možda bolje x
bajern 1
liverpul 1

**Montenegrino-CT** · 10-04-07, 17:05

Mislim da je Liverpul malo varljiv jer su vec obezbijedili moze se reci prolaz pa moze lako biti i nerijesena utakmica,ja cu ici na iznenadjenje kad je Liverpul u pitanju.

**funky^junkie** · 10-04-07, 17:57

mislish da im PSV moze zadat problema, bez obzira shto liverpoolu ama bash nishta ne treba pobjeda?

psv je raspad i ne bih se iznenadio da ih liverpool dobije ponovo 3:0

**Montenegrino-CT** · 10-04-07, 19:08

Ne bih se bas slozio da se moze nazvati raspad ekipa koja je dosla toliko dugo u ligi sampiona.

**funky^junkie** · 10-04-07, 21:39

Originally Posted by funky^junkie

može li taj mančester 3+?
bez vidića oni primaju golove bez problema, a isto tako imaju vrhunski napad koji zabija golove , rezultat 2:1 iz prve utakmice je takav da će u svakom trenutku neko morati da se otvara i napada bez kalkulacija, i ako mančester povede onda roma mora da juri...
jbg, još 90min je ostalo nekome, sigurno se neće čuvati za neku narednu utakmicu

chelzija moram... navijacki , a i da ne navijam za njih valensiju mrzim vishe od Zete

došloooo došlooo

**cocacolica** · 10-04-07, 21:40

funky svaka čast...
ja nisam dobila igrala x valensiju a dobi tvoj čelzi

eh da sam samo tebe poslušala...

**Emill** · 10-04-07, 22:51

"Wednesdays Soccer - By Chris.

Champions League Quarter Finals, second legs

Bayern Munich - Milan 2.36 - 3.50
No doubt for me - great odds on the home win. (2.36)Surely Milan wasted their chances of advancing last week, when they allowed Bayern the extremely late equaliser. I was not that surprised. Milan have struggled all season long and their players seem to lack the basic confidence. The Bayern late goal indicated just that, with the Milan keeper and his defenders all shaky at the moment of the Bayern equaliser.
Ronaldo, who was man of the match against Empoli, is ineligible for this game and his offensive colleague Gilardino is out, suspended. Tough on Milan, who are already short on quality strikers. It seems like coach Ancelotti will use one striker, Pippo Inzaghi, tomorrow.
Lucio, Hargreaves and Salihamidzic could not play for Bayern at the weekend, but they will be available, as well as Van Bommel and O Kahn. Demichelis replaced Lucio vs. Hannover, and he is an injury doubt this time and also Schweinsteiger is a major doubt. Sagnol definitely out. Without Schweinsteiger Bayern are handicapped.
Bayern will advance by drawing this match 0-0 or 1-1, but I expect the Germans to go for the win. They are that kind of team. (2.36)

Liverpool - P S V 1.56 - 8.00
Already 3-0 up, Liverpool are of course, all but in the semi final. The PSV coach Koemann admitted as much in an interview. The lousy PSV form continues. They lost to Nijmegen in the Dutch league at the weekend, and it was as a matter of fact their 6th successive winless match. Both their strikers Kone and Farfan were back vs Nijmegen, but to no avail. Still no Afellay or E Mendez, with Kromkamp, Alcides and Alex not involved tomorrow either.
Benitez will treat PSV with respect. He is indicating that Liverpool will field a strong starting line up tomorrow. Not his absolutely strongest, but all the same a Liverpool team fully capable of defeating this presently poor PSV side. D Kuyt and F Aurelio will not be available tomorrow. Home win, I guess! (1.56)

Chris."

**tricky_kid** · 11-04-07, 00:29

Originally Posted by Emill

"Wednesdays Soccer - By Chris.

Champions League Quarter Finals, second legs

Bayern Munich - Milan 2.36 - 3.50
No doubt for me - great odds on the home win. (2.36)Surely Milan wasted their chances of advancing last week, when they allowed Bayern the extremely late equaliser. I was not that surprised. Milan have struggled all season long and their players seem to lack the basic confidence. The Bayern late goal indicated just that, with the Milan keeper and his defenders all shaky at the moment of the Bayern equaliser.
Ronaldo, who was man of the match against Empoli, is ineligible for this game and his offensive colleague Gilardino is out, suspended. Tough on Milan, who are already short on quality strikers. It seems like coach Ancelotti will use one striker, Pippo Inzaghi, tomorrow.
Lucio, Hargreaves and Salihamidzic could not play for Bayern at the weekend, but they will be available, as well as Van Bommel and O Kahn. Demichelis replaced Lucio vs. Hannover, and he is an injury doubt this time and also Schweinsteiger is a major doubt. Sagnol definitely out. Without Schweinsteiger Bayern are handicapped.
Bayern will advance by drawing this match 0-0 or 1-1, but I expect the Germans to go for the win. They are that kind of team. (2.36)

Liverpool - P S V 1.56 - 8.00
Already 3-0 up, Liverpool are of course, all but in the semi final. The PSV coach Koemann admitted as much in an interview. The lousy PSV form continues. They lost to Nijmegen in the Dutch league at the weekend, and it was as a matter of fact their 6th successive winless match. Both their strikers Kone and Farfan were back vs Nijmegen, but to no avail. Still no Afellay or E Mendez, with Kromkamp, Alcides and Alex not involved tomorrow either.
Benitez will treat PSV with respect. He is indicating that Liverpool will field a strong starting line up tomorrow. Not his absolutely strongest, but all the same a Liverpool team fully capable of defeating this presently poor PSV side. D Kuyt and F Aurelio will not be available tomorrow. Home win, I guess! (1.56)

Chris."

Chris je bas dobar prognozer

**Katunjanin** · 11-04-07, 07:25

@tricky_kid
slazem se u potpunosti sa onim sto si gore iznio o rezultatima

@emill
chris je gori od shofra!

**tricky_kid** · 11-04-07, 10:25

Ja cu nocas da probam nesto da izmlatim sa 2-3e ono tipa Liverpul X-X, Bajern 1-X i sl

**Montenegrino-CT** · 11-04-07, 11:08

Juce me izbacise vise njih ali dobro idemo u nove pobjede i poraze

Bajern:Milan X (kvota 2.25)
Liverpul:PSV 2 (kvota 5.70)
Trabzonsp:Erciys 1 (kvota 1.35) Kup Turske
Besiktas: Fenrbahce 1 (kvota 2.20) Kup Turske
Orebro:Hamrby 1 (kvota 1.65) Zene fudbal (allsvenskan)
Nordhorn:Flesburg 1 (kvota 2.0) Muski rukomet ,prvenstvo Njemacke

Dobitna cifra 125 eura na jedan ulozeni

**Emill** · 11-04-07, 12:36

Originally Posted by tricky_kid

Chris je bas dobar prognozer

Umije da ufati velike kvote

**funky^junkie** · 11-04-07, 12:50

liverpool - psv 1 1,55@ futura
danas bih ruku stavio na ovu jedinicu . psv se raspada, gube titulu a bjezali su trista bodova...
otputovali su sa samo 16 igracha, nedostaje nekoliko standardnih, i sasvim je realno da su se predali i da ce ovu utakmicu samo da otaljaju
navijachi liverpoola ce dobrom atmosferom proslaviti polufinale dje ochekuju nekog engl protivnika, a mislim da ce im se i igrachi pridruziti u slavlju tako shto ce sa 50% gasa tresnut mrcheni psv 2:0 , 3:0
ht/ft 1-1 kvota 2.4 - 2.5 je isto zicer za mene...

bajern - milan ... a ovo ne znam... mislim da je bajern blizi pobjedi ali imaju povoljan rezultat iz prve utakmice zato mi se ne uzima 1 ovdje... 1x je 1.3 , to je pogodjeno ja mislim
drugo poluvrijeme vishe golova @2.15 u bookmakers... mozda bi to valjalo probat