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    Pri tom taj slon prijeti nuklearnim ratom,kao da mu je Zelenski upao tenkovima u Moskvu.

    Očito se preigrao,još samo to da prizna sebi i svijetu nego u njegovom slučaju nešto ne ide.

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    but if you wanna find hell with me, i can show you what it's like, till you're bleeding

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    Nije mi jasan izostanak njihove reakcije na izjave Kirila o ubijanju "antihrista" u "Lenjinovoj tvorevini" pravdajući time masakr,i zločine.

    Ili,opet to je ipak pop da se ne mješaju u "duhovne poruke".

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    braćo, veli

    https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/sta...02ukEWZIQGi00g

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    Dva oka u glavi.

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    Nisam ni zna do maloprije da postoji ručna verzija ovih termobaričnih sranja.

    https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status...tCklKwPxA&s=19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedd View Post
    Opravdano prozivke za Makrona u komentarima.

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    Pise li negdje koje smo konkretno sankcije Rusiji uveli?
    Kada mozak ne koristiš, čekaš da ti kažu
    tada misliš da sve znaš, ne vidiš da lažu

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    samo da su usaglašene sa savjetom EU, eo link

    https://www.gov.me/clanak/65-sjednic...-gore-08042022

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    Valjda su u skladu sa EU paketom sankcija.

    https://www.sanctionsmap.eu/

    Nema toga na Twitteru mandatara.

    Sad kad gledam ovu mapu,na putu su da stignu Sjevernu Koreju.

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    but if you wanna find hell with me, i can show you what it's like, till you're bleeding

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    Sad se sjetih kad im je Njemačka u znak podrške onomad poslala šlemove.

    Može Johnson to i bolje.

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    izgleda da stvari nisu išle baš najbolje, pa moraju ovakve promjene. vjerovatno @BAR zna više o ovome

    A Western official confirmed Russia had now reorganised the command of its operations in Ukraine with the general now in charge having had extensive experience from Syria.

    The forces which invaded on 24 February were organised and commanded separately from the district from which they had come.

    “There was really poor coordination across those different commands,” said the official, since Russian forces had never trained to work in this way. The Southern Military District Commander is now in charge of operations to attempt to provide better co-ordination - this is reported to be General Alexander Dvornikov.

    “That particular commander has a lot of experience of Russian operations in Syria. So we would expect the overall command and control to improve,” the official said.

    In terms of timing, the Western official thought political imperatives might take precedence over military priorities in Russia pushing forward to get some kind of success ahead of 9 May when the country marks victory in World War II. Western officials said they were seeing the piecemeal sending of more forces towards Donbas rather than pausing to allow forces to regroup properly.

    “There's a tension between the military logic of getting the force properly set for a reinvigorated Russian operation into the Donbas, potentially using more appropriate tactics and learning some of the lessons from the disastrous operations largely so far, against a political imperative to actually get on with the operation and move quickly,” said the official.

    Russia is thought to have slightly fewer than 100 battalion tactical groups available for operations, once they have been reconstituted after current moves. This would be a "substantial" Russian force but the official said Russian tactics have meant that even with numerical advantages they have been held back by smaller numbers of Ukrainian units acting in a far smarter way and with surprise.

    “Unless Russia is able to change its tactics, and be far more effective at using all the tools to its advantage, if it fails to do that, then it's very difficult to see how they succeed in even these limited objectives that they've reset themselves, and certainly not at the pace that I think they would hope to do," the official said.



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    Njemačka im je poslala i one rpg-ove, municiju itd, konkretnija podrška svakako u odnosu na Makrona, koji je u toj nekoj igri prijestola EU pokušao da se nametne kao ono što je bila Merkel..
    Opet, ova posjeta vrha EU u sred Buče je po meni moćna poruka u kom će pravcu da se postave u budućnosti.. Svakako računam na smanjenje energetske zavisnosti a još prije par godina je bila priča o vojnom jedinstvu EU zemalja (mini nato), možda će i u tom pravcu biti konkretni..
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    @outline to iskustvo iz Sirije je relativno, jer su bili dominantni u svakom pogledu (pješadija, artiljerija, oklopne jedince uz konstantnu nadmoć u vazduhu).. Ovamo se bore protiv daleko pripremljenijeg i obučenijeg neprijatelja, nemaju namdoć u vazduhu.. Plus ono tamo je pustinja..
    Koliko će se "uozbiljiti" takvim potezom vrijeme će pokazati.. Ne bih totalno isključio pregrupisanje i krvave borbe u Donbasu, neka veća ofanziva na Kijev mi je još manje vjerovatna..
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    Denacifikacija


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedd View Post
    @outline to iskustvo iz Sirije je relativno, jer su bili dominantni u svakom pogledu (pješadija, artiljerija, oklopne jedince uz konstantnu nadmoć u vazduhu).. Ovamo se bore protiv daleko pripremljenijeg i obučenijeg neprijatelja, nemaju namdoć u vazduhu.. Plus ono tamo je pustinja..
    Koliko će se "uozbiljiti" takvim potezom vrijeme će pokazati.. Ne bih totalno isključio pregrupisanje i krvave borbe u Donbasu, neka veća ofanziva na Kijev mi je još manje vjerovatna..
    ne znam kako će prodati priču u Rusiji ako ne uzme Donbas. mislim da će svim snagama krenuti u te djelove. i ove poruke čelnih ljudi tih djelova (mislim na UKR) civilima da napuštaju gradove u tim djelovima govori da imaju podatke da će biti užasno. pretpostavljam da će ih oslobađat ka Mariopulj

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    Vidjećemo u maju odluku Finske i Švedske o ulasku u NATO.

    Po anketama podrška je naglo porasla nakon agresije a raste sve više.

    A i zvaničnici Finske su nedavno izjavili čekamo ih od drugog svjetskog rata,vjerovatno misleći na onaj napad sovjeta poslije tzv pakta o "ne-napadanju".

    Onda bi to bio ozbiljan savez.

    Nema zemlje bivšeg SSSR-a koja se lagano izvukla iz "zagrljaja" Kremlja ali Ukrajina je nažalost platila najveću cijenu.

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    Spiegel
    German Intelligence Intercepts Radio Traffic Discussing the Murder of Civilians

    The Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), Germany’s foreign intelligence service, has acquired gruesome new insights into the atrocities committed by Russian military forces.
    ...
    DER SPIEGEL has learned that the BND briefed parliamentarians on Wednesday about its findings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedd View Post
    Svakako računam na smanjenje energetske zavisnosti a još prije par godina je bila priča o vojnom jedinstvu EU zemalja (mini nato), možda će i u tom pravcu biti konkretni..
    Ušli zeleni u parlament,fokus na obnovljive izvore energije,pa gašenje 3 od 6 posljednjih nuklearki u januaru.

    Energetski zavise gotovo 50%,ali ništa što sa njihovim BDPom ne mogu premostiti,bar u luksuzu.

    Da ne govorim o dugogodišnjem igranju mačke i miša sa "ruskim carom",a ovaj krenuo da obnavlja carstvo.

    Kad pogledam kako su prije ovog napada gotovo dremali u parlamentu a sad govor drži Šolc i parlament odjekuje.

    Zakucala maca na vratanca.



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    Quote Originally Posted by outline View Post
    samo da su usaglašene sa savjetom EU, eo link

    https://www.gov.me/clanak/65-sjednic...-gore-08042022

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedd View Post
    Kako da ne. EU se samo na papiru budi (barem za sad) i nikako drugo.

    Milijarde se i dalje uplacuju Rusiji a ovamo kao neke sankcije lupaju. Nije onaj ludak Trump bas ni bio toliko lud kada je opominjao Njemacku za preveliku zavisnost od RU, heh?

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    Sporedan komentar za onaj natpis na raketi-
    onako napisano ''za đecu'' na ruskom jeziku ne znači da je namijenjeno đeci, nego da je to 'payback' za prethodno stradalu đecu ( nešto kao ''ovo vam je za ONU đecu''... ).
    Ako i ne znate ruski, shjetite se onog pilota što je, opkoljen isilovcima, aktivirao ručnu granatu uz povik ''eto vam za pacanov ( ovo vam je za momke )'', misleći na osvetu za prethodno poginule ruske vojnike .

    Apsolutno ne ulazim u to koliko je tu što realno, dokazano, istinito ili izmišljeno, samo sam htio da pojasnimo značenje natpisa, jer se dosta komentarisalo, ali uz pogrešno jezičko tumačenje.

    EDIT:
    a, ako je tačno da Saša Dvornikov preuzima komplet konce u ruke, uz činjenicu da im od potpunog osvajanja Donbasa bukvalno sudbina zavisi, možemo očekivat jedan sasvim novi rat.
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