Bitcoin i ostale kriptovalute

[Virtu4L]

Alternative nam idu odlično, iako je sve ovo krenulo mnogo ranije nego sam očekivao. Ono što bi mogli očekivati u budućnosti (decembru),

IOTA
- minimalno jedan veliki exchange
- još jedno veliko partnerstvo, možda to čak bude i VW, vidjećemo nakon emisije na njemačkom ZDF
- wallet, ogroman problem na kojem se radi i koji mora biti riješen, za sve platforme (Desktop, iOS & Android)

SunContract
- Digital Solar & Storage meetup u Minhenu, 05.12.
- novi exchange, Liqui bi bio odličan
- vjerujem da će nam uskoro pokazati izgled aplikacije
- očekujem da objave neke ugovore koje su potpisali u posljednje vrijeme

Request Network
- 07.12. ide redovni update gdje bi konačno trebali objaviti datum kada će lansirati Colossus, velika vijest

[Stevy]

I ovaj trenutni IOTA Android wallet je upotrebljiv iako ne savršen ali desktop verzija je baš očajna.

[Archi]

Imao sam ludu srecu . Nakon masakriranja juce, postavio sam bio limit na 1.71 da kupim 1000kom. Mislio sam nece dostignut da padne toliko u skorije vrijeme kad evo preko noci je bila pala do 1.69 i kupio sam to. Sad vidim danas bila dostigla 2.4$ :O. Ali sad ih definitivno vise ne diram nego sto bi rekli na reddit HODL

[Evlcrazylady]

Imao sam ludu srecu . Nakon masakriranja juce, postavio sam bio limit na 1.71 da kupim 1000kom. Mislio sam nece dostignut da padne toliko u skorije vrijeme kad evo preko noci je bila pala do 1.69 i kupio sam to. Sad vidim danas bila dostigla 2.4$ :O. Ali sad ih definitivno vise ne diram nego sto bi rekli na reddit HODL

Zlatna groznica

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[Sandor Kolar]

Kakav bull jutros.
Inace ovaj bitfinex se gasi u USA. Mislim, odavno je ta prica.
To je mozda dobro sa aspekta sto ce malo obaliti cijenu IOTA-e, pa je dobro za uvaljivanje jos para.

[Virtu4L]

Da malo dodatno pojasnimo IOTA priču,

Zamislite da za par godina kupite novog Passata, a on je ujedno i IOTA wallet, zarađuje vam novac i koristi IOTA Tangle.

[bo8an]

i ukrade ti ga neko, odose i Passat i IOTE :mrgreen:

[Evlcrazylady]

i ukrade ti ga neko, odose i Passat i IOTE :mrgreen:

Bas ce IOTA doprinijeti sigurnosti stvari jer se prate u svakom trenutku

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[Virtu4L]

i ukrade ti ga neko, odose i Passat i IOTE :mrgreen:

Dobar :lolblue:

[Incognito]

Jedino pitanje o povlačenju novca nazad na račun i porezu.
Primjer: Trgovinom kriptovalutama napravim zaradu od 50.000e koje su npr na računu na Bitstampu.
Pošaljem novac preko SWIFT-a na račun u CeKaBe, priložim papirologiju o porijeklu novca (izvodi sa berze, analitika itd) i sve kul.
Da li neko zna o trenutnoj poreskoj situaciji kad su kriptovalute u pitanju? Da li zarada na berzi kriptovaluta potpada pod prihode koji se prijavljuju i plaćaju porez?

[Virtu4L]

Banke nemaju apsolutno nikakav stav po pitanju kripta, prosle sedmice sam isao u Societe da mi kazu ako nesto znaju. Rekli su mi da iz centralne banke nista nisu dobili.

Ako ti nesto budu trazili, onda ce to biti porez na dobit, koji je negdje oko 9%.

[Evlcrazylady]

Banke nemaju apsolutno nikakav stav po pitanju kripta, prosle sedmice sam isao u Societe da mi kazu ako nesto znaju. Rekli su mi da iz centralne banke nista nisu dobili.

Ako ti nesto budu trazili, onda ce to biti porez na dobit, koji je negdje oko 9%.

To je taj procenat. S tim sto niste duzni da prijavite porez od kapitala-jedino ako vas banka prijavi

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[Virtu4L]

Naravno da ćemo prijaviti, treba nam čist operativan novac, nismo kriminalci.

Ja tako razmišljam.

Računajte taj procenat u miotama biće vam lakše :mrgreen:

[Sandor Kolar]

Jedino pitanje o povlačenju novca nazad na račun i porezu.
Primjer: Trgovinom kriptovalutama napravim zaradu od 50.000e koje su npr na računu na Bitstampu.
Pošaljem novac preko SWIFT-a na račun u CeKaBe, priložim papirologiju o porijeklu novca (izvodi sa berze, analitika itd) i sve kul.
Da li neko zna o trenutnoj poreskoj situaciji kad su kriptovalute u pitanju? Da li zarada na berzi kriptovaluta potpada pod prihode koji se prijavljuju i plaćaju porez?

Mislim da se ne provjeravaju transakcije manje od 8k . Tako da mozes probati iz vise puta to da odradis.

[Evlcrazylady]

Naravno da ćemo prijaviti, treba nam čist operativan novac, nismo kriminalci.

Ja tako razmišljam.

Računajte taj procenat u miotama biće vam lakše :mrgreen:

Nismo kriminalci ali procitaj zakon mi smo fizicka lica ne firme,ako ima neki pravnik iz oblasti finansija ne bi bilo lose da dobijemo strucno tumacenje zakona.



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[Virtu4L]

I ako izvlačite po malo, postoji šansa da vam na kraju godine sve obračunaju ako pređete određeni iznos.

Meni taj rizik ne treba.

[nsparks]

bio je juce clanak u novom Bugu da se u Hrvatskoj za istu temu kao relevantan posmatra porez na dohodak, koji je kod njih cca 12%.

[_loco_]

Pozdrav svima! Sta kazete za ovu valutu Metaverse (ETP) ? Deluje mi da je sad pravo vreme za ulaganje u nju, jel ima neko mozda neki info od 1 000 000 dolara?

[Evlcrazylady]

Pozdrav svima! Sta kazete za ovu valutu Metaverse (ETP) ? Deluje mi da je sad pravo vreme za ulaganje u nju, jel ima neko mozda neki info od 1 000 000 dolara?

Taj koji ima te informacije ih ne dijeli vec ulaze svoje pare i cuti.

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[Virtu4L]

bio je juce clanak u novom Bugu da se u Hrvatskoj za istu temu kao relevantan posmatra porez na dohodak, koji je kod njih cca 12%.

Kod njih se plaća 11% poreza i 1% prireza.

S tim da neke banke odbijaju uplate da bi klijente zaštitili od gubitka novca, da, to im je zvanično objašnjenje.

[nsparks]

To sa bankama je interesantno jer slično rade i kod nas, prate neko uputstvo centralne banke koje je staro nekoliko godina.
mada samo savjetuju, jos uvijek ne ne blokiraju.

[Dejan]

https://oracletimes.com/litecoin-ltc-1000-usd-faster/

[nimfa]

https://oracletimes.com/litecoin-ltc-1000-usd-faster/

Ne radi ti taj link nesto.

[Dejan]

Ne radi ti taj link nesto.

Why Litecoin (LTC) Could Reach 1,000 USD Faster Than You Think

Litecoin (LTC)–Litecoin is one of the oldest and most stable coins on the crypto market. First released as an open-source fork of Bitcoin by Charlie Lee in October 2011, Litecoin has since been seen as the “silver” to Bitcoin’s gold. However, the currency offers significant benefits over Bitcoin, having studied the shortcomings of its predecessor to craft a more transaction-friendly currency that still offers utility as a decentralized store of value.

While Litecoin has yet to trade above 100 USD for an extended period of time, the excitement around the coin in terms of usability and dominant market cap gives Litecoin real potential to reach four-figure value in the near future.

Feasibility as a Payment System

Bitcoin is an excellent long-term store of value. Like gold and other appreciable assets, Bitcoin is an investment that, at least currently, offers a high rate of return. In place of banks, Bitcoin offers users a decentralized, digital vault that can also be used for money transfer. But the technology is not there yet for frequent, fast and cheap transactions. That may change with the onset of lightning network, but for now, Bitcoin’s transaction feasibility is being outclassed by other coins. Litecoin offers a shorter time for processing each block (2.5 minutes vs 10 minutes) and lower transaction fees (even accounting for BTC’s higher demand in the mempool). For businesses looking to find a way to incorporate cryptocurrency into their payment model, Litecoin provides an attractive alternative that has as much long-term potential as Bitcoin.

It’s nearly a given at this point that Amazon and other large warehouse companies will start accepting cryptocurrency. Amazingly, Overstock has been accepting BTC since 2014 and making huge gains as the price surges (they also started accepting Litecoin in August 2017 through Shapeshift). While Bitcoin is the obvious choice for these payments, given the market share and media coverage, altcoins aimed at improving the feasibility of online transactions will also garner strong interest. Litecoin is in prime position to become a currency of choice for big and small retailers alike. Fast transaction speed will be a priority as crypto is more widely accepted in the sphere of commerce. Imagine a small online business with products designed to be immediately downloaded or shipped. It hurts their ability to conduct business if the customer is forced to wait several hours for the payment to be confirmed. It also changes their pricing structure if transaction fees continue to be high. A $10 e-book that costs the consumer $1.50 in fees is no longer an attractive proposition.

Litecoin’s Price is Undervalued

Litecoin is currently trading at around 100 USD, less than one-hundredth the price of a single Bitcoin. While Litecoin does have a higher max supply (designed to be four times the amount of total Bitcoin), the price of LTC has yet to reach a sensible proportion to that of BTC. No one is expecting Litecoin to be one-to-one with Bitcoin in terms of per-coin value, particularly considering Bitcoin’s >50% market share, but it’s also hard to imagine Litecoin as 1/100th the value of its predecessor. As others have pointed out, Litecoin is severely undervalued.

Part of this can be attributed to the behavior of the founder, Charlie Lee. While Lee is a staunch supporter of his coin, he has yet to push an aggressive mindset to make Litecoin a direct competitor of Bitcoin. Instead, he sees LTC as a complement to the Bitcoin project, going so far as to verbalize the silver-gold connection. That could all change as the cryptomarketplace heats up with large investment money. As Motley Fool pointed out earlier in the week, Litecoin is the biggest competitor to Bitcoin. Ethereum (ETH) may hold a higher market cap, but seeks to differentiate itself as an application for technological development. Litecoin works nearly the same as Bitcoin, only more efficient in terms of speed and cost. None of which points towards Litecoin deserving such a low, relative price-per-coin other than a lack of marketing and investor-awareness. As cryptocurrency comes to the forefront of investment platforms, Litecoin is going to be exposed as massively undervalued for its long-term use. That’s when prices will really begin to skyrocket.

Short Term Gain, Long Term Value

There’s a lot of excitement surrounding Bitcoin and the crypto market for the massive gains to be made. While Litecoin offers value as a short-term investment, particularly as the market realizes it’s undervalued, the long-term potential is even more compelling. Bitcoin, and most crytpocurrencies, began as a project to give the average person a decentralized source of money that was suitable for the digital age. For that goal to become a reality, crypto enthusiasts and investors will have to start looking to the feasibility of the technology. Litecoin offers both individuals and big businesses a cheap and fast method for exchanging money. As cryptocurrency adoption reaches market saturation and appreciation against national fiat slows down, these are the factors that will be highly valued in a commerce-based society. Bitcoin may be the better option for long term storage of value, but Litecoin has a real chance to become the dominant payment currency of the digital age.

Disclaimer: This article does not constitute investment advice. All investments made in cryptocurrency should be considered inherently risky to the investor. The author does invest in and have holdings in the mentioned cryptocurrencies.

[Stevy]

Ja sam na Litecoin vazda gledao kao na kopiju Bitcoina i zbog toga mi nije previše zanimljiv, isto kao što izbjegavam Bitcoin Cash i Gold, ne kažem da ne mogu na njima da se zarade pare ali ih ja izbjegavam.