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    Quote Originally Posted by ovizionizi View Post
    samo jos da nadju recept za Kinu
    Kako ne znas pa Globalna Kina

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    zar moze drugacija
    - Baba, zašto za nas Zećane vele da govorimo: "Ovizi, onizi"?

    - A kojizi to vele, sine??

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    Jedna od rijetkih televizija koja redovno izvjestava.
    - Baba, zašto za nas Zećane vele da govorimo: "Ovizi, onizi"?

    - A kojizi to vele, sine??

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    Zaljubljena sam u Kinu

    Nisam odgledala snimke a i procitah samo prvi clanak i listu ucesnika.U starwalker-ovom prvom postu pise:
    8. Budućnost dolara
    Cilj je uništiti dolar i tako slomiti ono malo što je ostalo od američkog gospodarstva kako bi se slomila jedna svjetska sila i oformila svjetska vlada s vlastitim globalnim gospodarstvom.

    Ja sam iz ove recenice izvukla da je cilj suzbiti americki uticaj. Ok,kazete da je cilj formiranje globalne unije koja ce se sastojati iz vise unija?

    Pitanje je koliko uopste koncept UNIJA moze biti odrziv u stvarnosti. Evropska Unija, sa ekonomske tacke gledista, okarakterizovana je kontradiktornostima. Recimo ,ako EU tezi ka jedinstvenom trzistu u kojem cirkulise zajednicka moneta euro, a sa druge strane normativa i pravila donesena na nivou Unije se aplikuju drugacije u svakoj drzavi, lako je shvatiti da je to sve sem Unija. Sto ce biti sa Eu je za vidjeti, od 2011. je zapoceta potpuna rekonstrukcija pojedinih stavki na kojima je zasnovana EU, i citajuci neke studije na temu dodje se da zakljucka da nijedna od predlozenih reformi ne garantuje siguran rezultat,stavise vise se sumnja nego sto se vjeruje u njihovu uspijesnost.
    Da se ponovi ponovi eksperiment Unije ne mislim da ikome trenutno pada na pamet. Mislim da se ne radi o tome ,ipak. U sustini, ovo sto je starwalker rekao :''Dakle, centralizacija moći, odnosno stvaranje globalne države sastavljene od više unija (Evropske unije , Afričke unije, Pacifičke unije, kao i Sjeverno Američka Unija koja se formira'',mislim da je stvarnost a ne nikakav cilj. Ne moras imati nikakve zvanicne unije ,al u sustini cijeli svijet je podijeljen u par unija koje su kontrolisane bas od ovakvih magnata. A sta oni rade tamo u stvarnosti? Pa kontrolisu svijet jednostavno.
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    A pusti unije, sestro, sta cemo sa Libijom? Sta cemo sa nekim buducim Balkanom? Afganistanom? Irakom? Koliko ratova ta grupa mocnika treba da pokrene samo zarad njihovih interesa, koliko naroda da se iskomati i izgine, da bi ljudi shvatili da su oni iza svega?? Nisu svi ljudi kosmopoliti, ali definitivno ne bi bilo ni blizu toliko mrznje na ovom svijetu da je oni ne raspiruju. Dje su konflikti i podjele, tu je najlakse da se eksploatise narod i njegova bogatstva. Sravnis im zemlju, onda ih zaduzis (ili obratno), onda im restruktuiras privredu, radna snaga im postaje jeftina, a sva bogatstva na izvolte velikim korporacijama! O tome je rijec i taj trend se ne zaustavlja, naprotiv. Sve veci zamah dobija i tom savremenom imperijalizmu se ne nazire kraj.. ili ce sa njim doci nas kraj...
    - Baba, zašto za nas Zećane vele da govorimo: "Ovizi, onizi"?

    - A kojizi to vele, sine??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovizionizi View Post
    Dje su konflikti i podjele, tu je najlakse da se eksploatise narod i njegova bogatstva. Sravnis im zemlju, onda ih zaduzis (ili obratno), onda im restruktuiras privredu, radna snaga im postaje jeftina, a sva bogatstva na izvolte velikim korporacijama! O tome je rijec i taj trend se ne zaustavlja, naprotiv. ..
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    - Baba, zašto za nas Zećane vele da govorimo: "Ovizi, onizi"?

    - A kojizi to vele, sine??

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    Ko je sve bio na sastanku Bilderberga ove sedmice u St. Moritzu

    Više od stotinu predstavnika međunarodnih organizacija, farmaceutskih kompanija, banaka, političkih stanaka, medija, vojske i drugih velikih poduzeća poput Googlea, Facebookai Amazona okupili su se na godišnjem sastanku skupine Bilderberg. Kao što smo pisali, sastanak se od 9. do 12. lipnja održava u švicarskom St. Moritzu, u luksuznom hotelu Suvretta House.
    Kada bi se Jeff Bezos iz Amazona i Bill Gates iz Microsofta ili su-osnivač Facebooka Chris Hughes i izvršni predsjednik Googlea Eric Schmidt našli pod "normalnim" okolnostima, mediji bi nas gotovo sigurno preplavili člancima sa svim službenim i neslužbenim temama razgovora vodećih ljudi internet biznisa. No, kada se oni sretnu u sklopu sastanka Družbe Bilderberg, zajedno s drugim utjecajnim osobama, vijest je dovoljno zanimljiva samo alternativcima ili kako ih "veliki mediji" zovu "teoretičarima zavjera".
    Ne znamo o čemu su bogati i moćni razgovarali četiri dana u Švicarskoj uz nevjerojatno osiguranje, ali znamo da su bili tamo. Možemo samo nagađati de se raspravljalo o sudbini eura i dolara, rata na Bliskom istoku i budućem predsjedniku MMF-a ili pričekati nekoliko godina kako bismo unazad vidjeli (i osjetili) njegove odluke.


    Bilderberg 2011 (bilderberg2011.com)



    Impresivan popis učesnika ovogodišnjeg sastanka Bilderberga
    (dolasci pojedinih sudionika zabilježeni su kamerama):


    Belgija
    Coene, Luc, Governor, National Bank of Belgium
    Davignon, Etienne, Minister of State
    Leysen, Thomas, Chairman, Umicore

    Kina
    Fu, Ying, Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs
    Huang, Yiping, Professor of Economics, China Center for Economic Research
    Danska
    Eldrup, Anders, CEO, DONG Energy
    Federspiel, Ulrik, Vice President, Global Affairs, Haldor Topsře A/S
    Schütze, Peter, Member of the Executive Management, Nordea Bank AB
    Njemačka
    Ackermann, Josef, Chairman of the Management Board and the Group Executive Committee, Deutsche Bank
    Enders, Thomas, CEO, Airbus SAS
    Löscher, Peter, President and CEO, Siemens AG
    Nass, Matthias, Chief International Correspondent, Die Zeit
    Steinbrück, Peer, Member of the Bundestag; Former Minister of Finance
    Finska
    Apunen, Matti, Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA
    Johansson, Ole, Chairman, Confederation of the Finnish Industries EK
    Ollila, Jorma, Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell
    Pentikäinen, Mikael, Publisher and Senior Editor-in-Chief, Helsingin Sanomat
    Francuska
    Baverez, Nicolas, Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
    Bazire, Nicolas, Managing Director, Groupe Arnault /LVMH
    Castries, Henri de, Chairman and CEO, AXA
    Lévy, Maurice, Chairman and CEO, Publicis Groupe S.A.
    Montbrial, Thierry de, President, French Institute for International Relations
    Roy, Olivier, Professor of Social and Political Theory, European University Institute
    Velika Britanija
    Agius, Marcus, Chairman, Barclays PLC
    Flint, Douglas J., Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings
    Kerr, John, Member, House of Lords; Deputy Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell
    Lambert, Richard, Independent Non-Executive Director, Ernst & Young
    Mandelson, Peter, Member, House of Lords; Chairman, Global Counsel
    Micklethwait, John, Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
    Osborne, George, Chancellor of the Exchequer
    Stewart, Rory, Member of Parliament
    Taylor, J. Martin, Chairman, Syngenta International AG
    Grčka
    David, George A., Chairman, Coca-Cola H.B.C. S.A.
    Hardouvelis, Gikas A., Chief Economist and Head of Research, Eurobank EFG
    Papaconstantinou, George, Minister of Finance
    Tsoukalis, Loukas, President, ELIAMEP Grisons
    Međunarodne organizacije
    Almunia, Joaquín, Vice President, European Commission
    Daele, Frans van, Chief of Staff to the President of the European Council
    Kroes, Neelie, Vice President, European Commission; Commissioner for Digital Agenda
    Lamy, Pascal, Director General, World Trade Organization
    Rompuy, Herman van, President, European Council
    Sheeran, Josette, Executive Director, United Nations World Food Programme
    Solana Madariaga, Javier, President, ESADEgeo Center for Global Economy and Geopolitics
    Trichet, Jean-Claude, President, European Central Bank
    Zoellick, Robert B., President, The World Bank Group
    Irska
    Gallagher, Paul, Senior Counsel; Former Attorney General
    McDowell, Michael, Senior Counsel, Law Library; Former Deputy Prime Minister
    Sutherland, Peter D., Chairman, Goldman Sachs International
    Italija
    Bernabč, Franco, CEO, Telecom Italia SpA
    Elkann, John, Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.
    Monti, Mario, President, Univers Commerciale Luigi Bocconi
    Scaroni, Paolo, CEO, Eni S.p.A.
    Tremonti, Giulio, Minister of Economy and Finance
    Kanada
    Carney, Mark J., Governor, Bank of Canada
    Clark, Edmund, President and CEO, TD Bank Financial Group
    McKenna, Frank, Deputy Chair, TD Bank Financial Group
    Orbinksi, James, Professor of Medicine and Political Science, University of Toronto
    Prichard, J. Robert S., Chair, Torys LLP
    Reisman, Heather, Chair and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc. Center, Brookings Institution
    Nizozemska
    Bolland, Marc J., Chief Executive, Marks and Spencer Group plc
    Chavannes, Marc E., Political Columnist, NRC Handelsblad; Professor of Journalism
    Halberstadt, Victor, Professor of Economics,
    H.M. the Queen of the Netherlands
    Rosenthal, Uri, Minister of Foreign Affairs
    Winter, Jaap W., Partner, De Brauw Blackstone Westbroek
    Norveška
    Myklebust, Egil, Former Chairman of the Board of Directors SAS, sk Hydro ASA
    H.R.H. Crown Prince Haakon of Norway
    Ottersen, Ole Petter, Rector, University of Oslo
    Solberg, Erna, Leader of the Conservative Party
    Austrija
    Bronner, Oscar, CEO and Publisher, Standard Medien AG
    Faymann, Werner, Federal Chancellor
    Rothensteiner, Walter, Chairman of the Board, Raiffeisen Zentralbank Österreich AG
    Scholten, Rudolf, Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG
    Portugal
    Balsemăo, Francisco Pinto, Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA, S.G.P.S.; Former Prime Minister
    Ferreira Alves, Clara, CEO, Claref LDA; writer
    Nogueira Leite, António, Member of the Board, José de Mello Investimentos, SGPS, SA
    Švedska
    Mordashov, Alexey A., CEO, Severstal
    Bildt, Carl, Minister of Foreign Affairs
    Björling, Ewa, Minister for Trade
    Wallenberg, Jacob, Chairman, Investor AB
    Švicarska
    Brabeck-Letmathe, Peter, Chairman, Nestlé S.A.
    Groth, Hans, Senior Director, Healthcare Policy & Market Access, Oncology Business Unit, Pfizer Europe
    Janom Steiner, Barbara, Head of the Department of Justice, Security and Health, Canton
    Kudelski, André, Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group SA
    Leuthard, Doris, Federal Councillor
    Schmid, Martin, President, Government of the Canton Grisons
    Schweiger, Rolf, Ständerat
    Soiron, Rolf, Chairman of the Board, Holcim Ltd., Lonza Ltd.
    Vasella, Daniel L., Chairman, Novartis AG
    Witmer, Jürg, Chairman, Givaudan SA and Clariant AG
    Španjolska
    Cebrián, Juan Luis, CEO, PRISA
    Cospedal, María Dolores de, Secretary General, Partido Popular
    León Gross, Bernardino, Secretary General of the Spanish Presidency
    Nin Génova, Juan María, President and CEO, La Caixa
    H.M. Queen Sofia of Spain
    Turska
    Ciliv, Süreyya, CEO, Turkcell Iletisim Hizmetleri A.S.
    Gülek Domac, Tayyibe, Former Minister of State
    Koç, Mustafa V., Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.
    Pekin, Sefika, Founding Partner, Pekin & Bayar Law Firm
    SAD
    Alexander, Keith B., Commander, USCYBERCOM; Director, National Security Agency
    Altman, Roger C., Chairman, Evercore Partners Inc.
    Bezos, Jeff, Founder and CEO, Amazon.com
    Collins, Timothy C., CEO, Ripplewood Holdings, LLC
    Feldstein, Martin S., George F. Baker Professor of Economics, Harvard University
    Hoffman, Reid, Co-founder and Executive Chairman, LinkedIn
    Hughes, Chris R., Co-founder, Facebook
    Jacobs, Kenneth M., Chairman & CEO, Lazard
    Johnson, James A., Vice Chairman, Perseus, LLC
    Jordan, Jr., Vernon E., Senior Managing Director, Lazard Frčres & Co. LLC
    Keane, John M., Senior Partner, SCP Partners; General, US Army, Retired
    Kissinger, Henry A., Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
    Kleinfeld, Klaus, Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
    Kravis, Henry R., Co-Chairman and co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis, Roberts & Co.
    Kravis, Marie-Josée, Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute, Inc.
    Li, Cheng, Senior Fellow and Director of Research, John L. Thornton China Center, Brookings Institution
    Mundie, Craig J., Chief Research and Strategy Officer, Microsoft Corporation
    Orszag, Peter R., Vice Chairman, Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.
    Perle, Richard N., Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
    Rockefeller, David, Former Chairman, Chase Manhattan Bank
    Rose, Charlie, Executive Editor and Anchor, Charlie Rose
    Rubin, Robert E., Co-Chairman, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury
    Schmidt, Eric, Executive Chairman, Google Inc.
    Steinberg, James B., Deputy Secretary of State
    Thiel, Peter A., President, Clarium Capital Management, LLC
    Varney, Christine A., Assistant Attorney General for Antitrust
    Vaupel, James W., Founding Director, Max Planck Institute for Demographic Research
    Warsh, Kevin, Former Governor, Federal Reserve Board
    Wolfensohn, James D., Chairman, Wolfensohn & Company, LLC

    Naknadno zabilježeni dolasci
    Rasmussen, Anders Fogh, Secretary General of NATO Merkel, Angela Dorothea, German ChancellorZapatero, Jose Luis, Spanish Prim Minister Gates, Bill, Former Microsoft CEO, Head of the Gates FoundationGates, Robert, US Secretary of Defense
    http://metro-portal.hr/tko-je-sve-do...an-popis/60035
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    Koji od ovih na spisku su gushteri? Da vidimo odmah koji su najopasniji...
    Deserve's got nothing to do with it.

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    Impresivna imena. Pitam se kad ce ovo isplivati u mejnstrim medijima.

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    nije milo bio ? nista onda se ne priznaje to okupljanje
    Risk , is what makes life worth living

    Never a failure, always a lesson!

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    Special guest star: Djukanovic, Milo, Founder and CEO of Montenegro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojsije View Post
    Impresivna imena. Pitam se kad ce ovo isplivati u mejnstrim medijima.
    Neće isplivati, jer oni drže te iste medije.
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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    Starwalker-u, spiskovi ti se ne podudaraju, baci se u potragu novih informacija! Na prethodnom spisku je bilo ime Mario Draghi - najvjerovatnije buduci guverner Centralne evropske banke, sad je zamjenjen Tremonti-jem. Perche`?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AltaMarea88 View Post
    Starwalker-u, spiskovi ti se ne podudaraju, baci se u potragu novih informacija! Na prethodnom spisku je bilo ime Mario Draghi - najvjerovatnije buduci guverner Centralne evropske banke, sad je zamjenjen Tremonti-jem. Perche`?
    Ne, ne. Ono je spisak učesnika sa Bilderberg meetinga u Sitgesu, Španija prošle godine.

    Nego, zaninima me da li su italijanski mediji ispratili incidenti sa Mario Borgheziom?
    Naime ovaj EU parlamentarac je htio upasti na meeting, ali je spriječen.

    Italy complains over Bilderberg incident
    The Italian embassy in Bern has requested an enquiry into the expulsion of an Italian EU parliamentarian who tried to get into the secret Bilderberg conference.[/h] According to a report by the Italian news agency, Ansa, on Saturday, the Italian foreign ministry has asked Switzerland to name those responsible.
    The incident happened on Thursday when Mario Borghezio and another unnamed Italian citizen were stopped by employees of a private security service at the official entrance to the Suvretta House luxury hotel in the Swiss resort of St Moritz, where the conference is being held.
    He showed his deputy’s card, but since he did not have an invitation the cantonal police were called. He was held at the police station before being expelled from the canton and forbidden to return until after the end of the conference on Sunday.
    Ansa reported on Friday that the security agents had “laid violent hands” on the two men. One of them had suffered a nose bleed.
    Borghezio announced at a press conference on Friday that he would bring legal charges in connection with the incident.
    The highly secretive Bilderberg Group is described as a gathering of the world’s power brokers, which has met every year in a different location since 1954.
    A demonstration against the meeting called in St Moritz on Saturday afternoon by the Young Socialists attracted only about 50 participants, the Swiss News Agency
    reported

    http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics...l?cid=30444112
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    Hahaha! Italijanski politicari i spektakl su uvijek isli zajedno. Sad sam ti provjerila, posto ja za ovog covjeka nisam nikad cula. Uglavnom, htio je da prisustvuje ''mafijasko masonerskom sastanku na kome se odlucuju ekonomsko finansijska pitanja, od kojih sigurno treba strahovati cim se najuticajniji ljudi ujedinjuju u velikoj tajnosti kako bi odlucivali o sudbini svijeta'' - njegove rijeci. Medjutim, dobio je po nosu, bukvalno Bildberg ne voli radoznale! Pogledah mu i biografiju, u zadnjih 15 ak godina dozivio je jedno 20 -ak napada na njega i to na javnim mjestima,mada pogledaj i njegovu sliku i bice ti jasna njegova uloga . Nije se neka paznja posvetila tom dogadjaju, poci ce sigurno na par televizija da isprica svoj dozivljaj i to je to.Naravno, moci ce na wickipedi-ji da mu upisu jos jedan nasrtaj na njega.Fina stvar.
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    Izvor: Blic.rs
    27.07.2011


    "Gardijan" o sastanku grupe Bilderberg

    Najmoćniji se zalažu za novi svetski rat?!

    Na poslednjem sastanku grupe Bilderberg, koju mnogi smatraju svetskom vladom u senci, detaljno su analizirani Kina, Irak, Rusija, te kriza u EU, zaključeno je da se stanovništvo planete smanjuje presporo, za šta je alternativa - novi svetski rat.

    Sent Moric

    Mediji iznose pretpostavke da je ta moćna grupa, koju čine sadašnji i bivši političari, bankari, aristokrate i biznismeni, govorila i o širenju vojnih dejstava u punom obimu na Bliskom istoku i u severnoj Africi.

    Na sastanku u Sent Moricu, koji je, kao i uvek, bio strogo zatvoren za javnost i dobro obezbeđen, grupa Bilderberg je, navodno, diskutovala i o podršci evru i zaključeno je da Grčka i ostale zemlje u zoni koja je u krizi treba da plate dugove ostrvima ili čime već mogu...



    Takođe, razgovarano je o nastavku okupacije Iraka, te o izazivanju niza kriza u Kini i Rusiji kako bi bili podriveni njihovi finansijski sistemi, kao i o tome da sa alternativnim masmedijima i internetom koji neće biti kontrolisan “može nešto i da se uradi”... Na sastanku “odabranih” mnogo se govorilo i o širenju vojnih dejstava u punom obimu na Bliskom istoku i u severnoj Africi.

    Kako o poslednjem zasedanju grupe piše britanski “Gardijan”, ove godine je “Bilderberg bio mnogo širi nego ranije. Veća gomila, više imena, više reportera”. “Gardijan” je primetio i ruskog oligarha Alekseja Mordašova, glavnog vlasnika i direktora kompanije „Severstalj“, čijoj je firmi-kćerki “Severstalj zapadna Amerika”.

    Zasedanje u Sent Moricu ove godine prošlo je pod pokroviteljstvom samo jednog člana - Dejvida Rokfelera. Ostali stalni članovi Konsultativnog komiteta, dakle najužeg tela Bilderberga su: Edmund de Rotšild, Zbignjev Bžežinski, Pol Volfovic, Henri Kisindžer, (sada pokojni), Ričard Holbruk, Etjen Davinjon, Henri Hajnc i Romano Prodi.
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    62. Bilderberg konferencija se održava od 29. maja – 1 juna u Kopenhagenu

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    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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    sve je to ok, al đe je tu Milo???

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