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Afera Weinstein je tek vrh ledenog brega u Holivudu?
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KEVIN SPACEY ŠOKIRAO SVET Optužen za PEDOFILIJU"
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Corey Feldman razotkriva holivudski lanac pedofilije
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I zakljucak na kraju, ako se ebala za posao, pa neka je i silovana usput, ko joj je kriv?
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Mozda zbog njegovih uloga imam potrebu da branim Spaceyja ali to sa njim mi se cini dosta prenaduvanim. On je samo legao preko ovog klinca, obucen i bez ikakvog napasnickog dodirivanja a uz sve to je sigurno bio mrtav pijan. I sada se nadje posle 30 godina ovaj nikad cuo glumac sa nekom otuznom pricom, a sta je uopste on radio tamo sa 14 godina i zasto se tek sada setio o tome da progovori nije objasnio. Mada cim se Spacey odmah izvinio i jos pokusao da skrene paznju na to kako je otvoreno gej ima tu neceg, mozda ne sa tim likom nego sa nekim drugim osobama. A da je Hollywood truo je poznato jos od njegovog nastanka, ko zna i ko tu sve koga mozda namerno minira i zasto bas sada posle toliko decenija izviru tolike tvrdnje o seksualnom zlostavljanju.
Gej lobi mu je platio da se tako izjazni, dobio je ponudu koju nije mogao odbiti i to je kraj price.
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Kakva prskotina. Samo da se ne nadje neki pametnjakovic da nazove ovo libidom.
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Meni je sve jasno kad im vidim rajder liste...
E da su silovane ali ne moze bit dokaza za to posle 20 godina, a sad su se sjetile a kao nisu mogle da kazu prije...Quote:
Originally Posted by goozica
Vise mi se cini da buše starog manijaka no sto ih je silovao
silovana ne bijah pa ne znam kako je u njihovoj kozi, al smatram da se zdrava osoba ne bi sprdala s ovakvim stvarima.Quote:
Originally Posted by kupus
a sto se tice 20 godina kasnije... ima stvari koje ljudi ne kazu ni tada
Ne kazem da nisu, ali sam odlazak u hotelsku sobu govori dosta o tome...
Nisu ni one bas sa marsa pale
Može biti, a i ne mora. Zamisliti sad takvu situaciju neke atraktivne studentkinje privatnog faksa, iz tvog kvarta, žrtve nekog od gradskih budžovana i moćnika na pozicijama. Kad bi smjela reći javno, ti bi joj vjerovao?Quote:
Originally Posted by kupus
Чланови жирија...
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Zasto ne bi, ali kad bi posla kod lokalnog mocnika u hotel da pricaju o poslu i ne bi.. posebno ako to isprica za 20 godina
E ne znam, nezdravo mi je ovo da se trazi izgovor, mozda je ovo, mozda je ono.
To sto ce neko preko kreveta da napravi karijeru je jedna stvar, odvratna jeste ali nije ilegalna, ovo za sta se optuzuje Weinstein je nesto sasvim drugo.
Šta je gore od silovatelja? Silovatelj rasista.
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Ima tu još jedna zavrzlama, ogleda se, između ostalih, i u primjeru Gwyneth Paltrow. Navodno, ova slavna glumica je godinama bila Weinsteinova marioneta, njegova pratilja na holivudskim događanjima, a svoj oskarovski govor je takođe posvetila njemu... i sve to dosta vremena nakon napastvovanja za koje ga upravo sad optužuje. Šta je pozadina ovakvog ponašanja i šta se desilo u međuvremenu?Quote:
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The Italian actress Asia Argento has accused Weinstein of forcibly performing oral on her when she was 21. ‘He terrified me, and he was big. It wouldn’t stop. It was a nightmare.’ She said she went on to have consensual relations with him over the years that followed. She documented the alleged attack in her 2000 film “Scarlet Diva”.
Cara Delevingne: The model turned actress said Weinstein tried to get her to engage in a threesome with him and another woman in a New York City hotel room
Louisette Geiss: Actress was called to a late night meeting with Weinstein in 2008. He allegedly emerged in a bathrobe and told her he would green light her script if she watched him mastUrbate. She left the meeting.
Judith Godreche: The French actress says Weinstein tried to massage her and pull off her sweater after asking her up to his Cannes suite to see the view in 1996.
Dawn Dunning: Aspiring actress says she was called to a meeting about future film projects in 2003. When she arrived Weinstein presented her with three scripts for his next three movies which he would let her star in, only if she had three-way with him. She fled the hotel.
Tomi-Ann Roberts: Weinstein met her when she was serving tables as a college junior in 1984 and told her to meet him at his home. When she arrived, she says, he was naked in the bath and told her she would give a better audition if she was nude. She says she refused and left.
Katherine Kendall: The Swingers actress was told Weinstein had to stop off in his apartment to pick something up after a screening in 1993. He changed into a bathrobe and told her to massage him. When she resisted she said the mogul returned naked and chased her.
Lucia Evans: The actress, formerly known as Lucia Stoller, claims Weinstein forced her to perform oral on him in 2004. Speaking to the New Yorker, she said that she suffered years of trauma after the incident, which occurred in a ‘casting meeting’ in a Miramax office in Manhattan. He reportedly called her late at night after the incident.
Mira Sorvino: The “Mighty Aphrodite” actress told the New Yorker that Weinstein tried to massage her in a hotel room at the 1995 Toronto International Film Festival. He then went to her home in the middle of the night, but she called a male friend to protect her, she claimed. She said turning down the mogul adversely affected her career.
Rosanna Arquette: The actress also said her career suffered after she rebuffed Weinstein’s advances in the early 1990s. At a hotel meeting he tried to put her hand on his erect penis, she claims.
Rose McGowan: The actress, who made her breakthrough in 1996 in the Weinstein-produced slasher revival movie “Scream”, reportedly sued Weinstein after he assaulted her in 1997 at the Sundance Film Festival. She signed a non-disclosure agreement at the close of the suit and has only referred to him obliquely in social media since. On Sunday, she referred to being abused by a ‘monster’ and has previously referred to being raped by a studio head.
Ashley Judd: Judd’s film roles include the 1997 thriller “Kiss the Girls” – and says that during the filming of that movie, Weinstein repeatedly asked her to watch him shower. She was one of the women who spoke out to The New York Times this week, saying: ‘Women have been talking about Harvey amongst ourselves for a long time, and it’s simply beyond time to have the conversation publicly.’
Emma De Caunes: French actress Emma de Caunes said that she met Weinstein in 2010, soon after he told her he had a script he was producing based on a book with a strong female character. Weinstein offered to show her the script, and asked her up to his hotel room, where he began to take a shower. He then emerged naked and with an erection, asking her to lay down with him on the bed and telling her that many had done so before. ‘I was very petrified,’ said de Caunes. ‘But I didn’t want to show him that I was petrified, because I could feel that the more I was freaking out, the more he was excited.’
Lauren O’Connor: A former employee of The Weinstein Company, she told executives there in the fall of 2015 that there was ‘a toxic environment for women at this company’ after one of her colleagues told her that Weinstein had pressured her into massaging him while he was naked, the NYT said.
Ambra Battilana: An Italian actress and model, she told the NYT that in March 2015 Weinstein invited her to his New York office. There, she said, he asked if her breasts were real before grabbing them and putting his hands up her skirt. She reported the alleged incident to police, but they did not press charges. According to the NYT, Weinstein later paid her off.
Jessica Barth: Weintein reportedly pressured Barth, an actress, to give him a naked massage in the Peninsula Hotel from 2011 onwards.
Laura Madden: An ex-employee, she told the NYT that Weinstein had asked her to give him massages from 1991 onwards, while they were both in London and Dublin. ‘It was so manipulative,’ she told the NYT. ‘You constantly question yourself – am I the one who is the problem?’ Weinstein denied knowledge.
Emily Nestor: Nestor had been a temporary employee of the Weinstein Company for just one day in 2014 when Weinstein approached her and offered to boost her career in exchange for relations, the NYT reported.
Zelda Perkins: An assistant of Weinstein’s, based in London in 1998; then 25, she reportedly confronted Weinstein after she and ‘several’ others were harassed and later settled out of court.
Elizabeth Karlsen: The Oscar-nominated producer of “Carol” and “The Crying Game”, among others, told The Hollywood Reporter on Sunday that almost 30 years ago, an unnamed young female executive who had worked at Miramax with Weinstein had found him naked in her bedroom one night. The exec was in a house rented by Miramax at the time to cut its overhead costs.
Liza Campbell: A freelance script reader, she told the UK’s Sunday Times that Weinstein had summoned her to his hotel room in London before telling her to get in the bath with him.
Lauren Sivan: The former Fox news host said that Weinstein trapped her in a closed restaurant and masturbated in front of her to completion in 2007. He took her to a closed restaurant beneath a club she had visited and attempted to kiss her, then when she refused, he cornered her and made her watch him touch himself, according to The Huffington Post.
Jessica Hynes: The British actress, best known for her roles in the Bridget Jones movies and for co-creating and co-writing the sitcom “Spaced”, said she was invited to audition for Weinstein when she was 19 – in a bikini. Hynes, formerly known as Jessica Stevenson, said she refused to wear the skimpy item – and lost the job.
Romola Garai: British actress Romola Garai said she felt ‘violated’ following a meeting with Harvey Weinstein in his London hotel room when she was 18 in which he was in a bathrobe. Garai, best known for her role in “Atonement”, said she had already been hired for a part but was told to audition privately with the Hollywood mogul because ‘you had to be personally approved by him’. ‘Like every other woman in the industry, I’ve had an ‘audition’ with Harvey Weinstein,’ she told The Guardian. ‘So I had to go to his hotel room in the Savoy and he answered the door in his bathrobe. I was only 18. I felt violated by it’.
Gwyneth Paltrow: The star told the New York Times that Weinstein touched her and suggested having joint massages in the bedroom before she started shooting the 1996 film Emma. She said she told her then boyfriend Brad Pitt about the incident and he confronted the mogul.
Angelina Jolie: Jolie told the Times she had to turn down advances from Weinstein in 1998 and chose never to work with him again. She said she warned other women about him.
Unnamed assistant: Weinstein allegedly behaved inappropriately toward a woman employed as his assistant in 1990. The case was settled out of court.
Another unnamed assistant: In 2015, Weinstein reportedly pressured another assistant into giving him a naked massage in the Peninsula Hotel, where he is also said to have pressured Barth.
Unnamed Miramax employee: At one point in the early 1990s, a young woman is alleged to have suddenly left the company after an encounter with Weinstein. She also settled out of court.
Unnamed woman: A woman who did not wish to be named because she feared Weinstein’s connections told The New York Times that the producer had summoned her to his hotel at an unknown date and raped her.
– Daily Mail
Treba batalit svaki Holivudski film gledati, sve same sotone. Jedino je Klint Istvud ostao dosljedan, svi ostali, neko samoubistvo, neko *****, neko se prodao ovako ili onako...
Jedno veliko PI.
Klint, velis?Quote:
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Toga ima u filmskoj industriji nezavisno od Olivuda. Evo i kod nas su se javile Snežana Savić i Seka Sabljić pri čemu je ova poslednja stavila akcenat na partizanske režisere. A onda manekenstvo... Eto glumu prate ove stvari i suludo je neko da se upusti u tu vrstu umjetnosti a da ne zna šta ga može sve čekati. Da li treba tako da bude? Ne, ali tako je kako je i treba se boriti protiv toga. Ne bih sudio o ponašanju žrtvi jer reakcija žrtve može biti od podrške silovatelju do osude i to je ne čini manje žrtvom.
Predatora ima svuda ali se najviše gnijezde tamo gdje su zaštićeni. To su danas filmska industrija, industrija mode... Kada su u pitanju žene to se postavlja kao neka cijena njihovog uspjeha. Umjetnost najbolje cvjeta u mraku pa tako možda ovo nikad neće biti iskorjenjeno.
Umjetnost ne zna za granice izvan "platna"...
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Svi su znali sve.
Covjek.
Nivo licemjerstva ispod tog Holivudskog sjaja je zbilja epski..
Ne opravdavam ni jedne ni druge u ovom slučaju, silovanje je silovanje, žrtva je žrtva ali kako objasniti taj fenomen da su to posle inicijalnog čina obje strane to radile iznova i iznova evo 20+ godina?
Razumijem da su se u startu mnogi plašili od moći Weinstein-a kao i drugih moćnika zbog toga što bi im u startu uništili karijeru. Ali ćutati o tome pa i po cijenu karijere ne mogu da razumijem..
Moć je najopasnija droga na kraju.
Onda Kevin Spejsi, izjavom da je gej je i definitivno potvrdio da je Holivud jedna velika papazjanija bluda.. Čitam da je i Tarantino znao HW-a.
Sad su svi ustali da osuđuju i ako su svi znali šta se dešava, kao da bukvalno prate trend tj. the hottest topic right now. Za par mjeseci će biti kao da se ništa nije ni desilo..
Weinstein je bio producent kod dosta Tarantinovih filmova, ovaj kaze da je znao za njegovo "ponasanje" ali jbg, valjalo mu je guzici pa nije nista radio povodom toga.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zedd
Nisu ti ljudi nista drugaciji od nas, vecina ljudi se ne zali i ne buni dok njihovoj guzici ne zafali ili dok njih neko ne zajebe, samo sto su tu velike pare i uticaj u pitanju.
Pa tako imas glumce koji jedva cekaju da rade sa Polanskim, Vudi Alenom, Brajan Singerom itd. dok je recimo Mel Gibson bio nepozeljan dugo vremena jer je pijan i u svadji svasta rekao zeni.
Mel je nastradao zbog prozivanja Jevreja.
Samo znam da mi je jadno što čitava Holivudska zajednica drži moralni high ground a pratkično svi znaju šta se i kako radi. Najgore što će biti još likova poput HW-a, Kevina Spejsija i co. Za par godina se neće niko ni sjećati šta se dešavalo..
Nisu stvari bas tako jednostavne, nije da branim nekog ko cuti o ovome, ali ako ti nesto znas iz price, kao sto na primer svi znamo sta se radi po nasoj drzavi, ne mozes da izletis i da optuzis nekog ako nemas konkretne dokaze. Jer mogu da te tuze i da ti uniste karijeru.
Jedino sto u tom slucaju mozes da radis je da upozoris ljude koje znas i da ne saradjujes sa takvim likova.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXnNOBj26lk
Pazi ovaj aplauz, samo sto suzu nisu pustili nad sudbinom ovog jadnog ceoka, nego se ne vidi tu moralna gromada od Meril Strip kako aplaudira.
Eo Tantaratino je znao. Znao je Đorđe Kluni isto. Imaš izbor da budeš čoek sa svim posledicama koje to zvanje nosi ili da budeš umjetnik, a isti čoek ka većina - ni manji ni veći. Što bik uradio? Da se veljam ovdje pa kažem da bih ja to prijavio? Jel danas mnogo tražiti od nekog da bude čovjek? Mislim da jeste baš kao što je nekad bilo mnogo tražiti od nekog da bude heroj. Heroja više nema, pripadaju tamo nekoj dalekoj prošlosti. I ljudi će izumrijeti baš kao i heroji. A jes puno tražiti, ne zavaravajte se da nije.
Jedina cudna stvar u svemu ovome je sto se neki ljudi cude ovim "otkrovenjima".
Dok god ima neko da se iskreno zgrozi i zacudi, dobro je ima nade. No dostini se u trenutku najveceg cudenja i zgrazavanja nad ovakvim stvarima malo popridigne.
Pricha pochinje i zavrshava se prvom rechenicom sto napisa, -Licemjerje!Quote:
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I to ne samo holivudsko, vec svih (usranih selebritija) koji su se nasli pozvani da komentarisu, zgrazaju se, osudjuju i sl. gadne prdnjave. Krace, -Attention Whores!
No tu se ne moze nista od armije bijednika na kojoj ova gomna parazitiraju.
Spletom okolnosti (izrazitom kolichinom slobodnog vremena, mnogo vise nego sto bi chovjek trebao imati) ispratio sam od pochetka vrlo detaljno sve sto se dogadjalo. I pricha je vrlo slichna Trampovoj. Ne zna se koje je gore od kojega u 90% sluchajeva. Ili Harvi prasica ili fuksetine (ogromna vecina) koje su se sad sjetile da je bio napad..
HW je klasichna smrdljiva krmacha koja je davno uvidjela sto mu sve moze bit zbog polozaja i on je to naravno koristio koliko je god mogao (Les Grosman iz Tropic Thundera, je odlichna paradigma). Nista novo, nista posebno, potpuno standardno kao eN prasadi prije njega, tako i eN prasadi posle njega.
No ko ga optuzuje za silovanje?! Svi dogadjaji su od prije ne znam koliko godina i svaka je tada uzela pare za cutanje (tj. usluge). Tako da, sad, optuzbe prilichno blijedo i neuvjeriljivo zvuche. Sad su se sjetile..
-Dok sam smatrala da mi moze valjat, nije bilo silovanje, e sad kad sam se dovatila para i imena/ili mi je karijera u K, (a i malo bih savjest i ime kod ovih sto me znaju da operem), sad je silovanje. Pa sramota!
Takodje, ono sto prichu o silovanju chini jos tanjom, da se dosta zena javilo koje vele da su ga izmrsikale kad im se primicao i nije se vise pojavljivao. Drugim rijechima, koja je bila stvarno protiv, nista se nije desilo.
Vrlo vjerovatno da je bilo, -Pa ne znam, ne bih, nemoj, ne znam (nisam se izdepilirala/a i vec sam ti dala za onu ulogu).. pa dobro ajde (ali ocu glavnu ulogu u ovom novom).
Opet, to nije opravdanje, vec osvjetljava stvar iz pravog ugla, a to je -gadno prenemagachko licemjerje! (Kod dezurnih zgrazavacha jos gore, ako ima kud!).
Pokojni George Carlin, neka mu je laka crna zemlja, eN puta je govorio o ovom i kako je to fundament na kom pochiva chitavo drustvo, licemjerje i BS (bullshit).
Kako imati saosjecanja za nekog (musko-zensko, nebitno), ko odlichno zna da ide u hijensku jazbinu i kad mu se desi ono sto je ochigledno da ce da se desi, posle 20 godina prijavi da je bio ujeden i krene da prenemaze. Dakle nevrijedno komentara. A posebno sto ti isti/iste idu da promovisu guzicu/belo telo i zarade leba bez motike, dodju "qrvanjem" do slave, moci, para.
Ovo se oduvijek dogadjalo i dogadja, isto kao sa Harvijem, no tada su cutali/le, jer su dobro i posteno razumjeli/le kakvim se poslom bave i da je to cijena. Nego iz razloga sto je svijet potpuno posasavio, imaju obraza da se prenemazu.
Sto mi pade nam, volio bih da je moguce znati, koliko ih je batalilo karijere (je li vise od 0.2%), kad im je kakav producent rekao, -Ako zelis ulogu.. .
Sto se tiche Kevina Spejsija, ne sto sam narochit fan gospodina, nisam nichiji pa ni njegov, ali stvarno bi manje prenemaganja bilo dobro.
Kakva crna pedofilija?! Pa age of consent u Eu je 14-16.
Uostalom, sto je Dave Chappelle zborio, -How old is 15 really? Prichajuci o R. Kelly-iju i kako je (navodno, zapravo 100%), pikio po nekim mladjanim 15-godishnjim obozavateljkama u sexualnom zanosu.. I zastupao, -Ako sa 15 godina ne znas da li zelis da te neko zapisha ili ne (ili moras da razmislis "kako se osjecas povodom toga"), -Give up motherfucker!
Nadovezujuci na to prichu o nesrecku istih godina, koji je zDrugom vjezbao borilacke zahvate i ubio ga nehotice. Sudjeno mu je kao odraslom, dobio dozivotnu!
Dakle, -How old is 15 really?! (Ima na youtube, ko voli nek pogleda, odlichan je).
Zahvaljujem se, kaže M. Strip, Bogu - Harviju Vajnstinu.
I meni Dave pade na pamet. A segment je iz 2004 :DQuote:
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I kao sto rece, licemjerje nije samo holivudsko. Sjetih se i ovoga: http://www.businessinsider.com/judge-jen-boyd-black-teen-prison-2013-12
Ono kad si previse bogat da bi razlikovao dobro od loseg. Ali ako si 14-godisnji crnac, tretiracemo te kao da o moralu imas vise da kazes od Nicea i Kanta zajedno :D
Kad će više da izađu iz ormara: Tom Kruiz, Met Dejmon, Ðorđ Kluni, i to tijom redom.
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Kakav svijet u racku. Neznas sto je gore, ono prase Ili ove "mudonje" sto se javljalju posle oskara. À nisu pomislile one prve zrtve da se jave da spase te ostale. Kad je oskar bitniji od tvog zivota. Sve se pojavise sad odjednom. À sta sa zenama koje su u braku i trpe razna sranja jer nemaju kud. À ove fufe progovaraju sad posle oskara. Pih. Nzm sta je gore. À debilu mogla si da spasis neke glumice da si progovorila. Ali neeee karijera u pitanju. Ja bi sve ove sto zale u cuzu. Toliko zena trpe svaki dan maltretiranje zato sto "riba nije dobro pecena", zato sto kasne sa posle 3minuta. Mrzim da neko zlostavlja neku zenu. Ali ajd sad se sve nasle. Ali Bilo OK na dodijelu oskara. Off u tu pricu Imas svinju I fufe. Nema jednog da drugog stigne sto se veli. Kad ides sa nekom masnom svinjom u hotelskoj sobi pa jbmti znas sto te ceka.