View Poll Results: Da li ćete dobrovoljno primiti vakcinu protiv koronavirusa?

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  • Da, apsolutno! To je jedina razumna odluka, svaka dalja diskusija je – izlišna

    55 27.78%
  • Da, pod uslovom da je ta vakcina odobrena za primjenu u EU tj. nije varijanta za zemlje 3. svijeta

    62 31.31%
  • Ne, nemam povjerenja u efikasnost prebrzo razvijene vakcine/ nepoznati dugoročni efekti po zdravlje

    50 25.25%
  • Ne, nisam pristalica vakcinisanja generalno, kao vida zaštite od bolesti

    20 10.10%
  • Ne znam. Lomim se oko odluke

    11 5.56%
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Thread: [COVID] Vakcine i tok pandemije [opšta diskusija]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugi View Post
    Vitamin C kao i svaki drugi vitamin pomaže organizmu u borbi protiv prehlade i gripa (pa i u COVID19 koji je jedan tip influence). To smo učeni od malena i nebrojeno je analiza koje to potvrđuju.

    Kao sam i gore napisao ne zanima me ko je na TV (ili u ovom slučaju na web sajtu), već samo da li nešto pomaže ili šteti ili je bez efekta.

    Vitamini dokazani koriste organizmu, mogu i da štete ako se uzmu u prevelikim dozama, ali to je za neku drugu priču.
    Odakle sad pomorandze u igri iako se slazem sa tim.

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    Enivej.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugi View Post
    Ljudi koji kritikujku struku, a sami nijesu iz te struke.
    Dakle, struku ne treba kontrolisati i bilo koju njihovu akciju dovoditi u pitanje, bilo šta sumnjati?
    Takvi ljudi na povocu su idealni za današnju vladajuću elitu.
    E, da, i u nacističkoj Njemačkoj sve bili vrli stručnjaci, ali im se omanu...
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    Zar ne misliš da sada ti malo izvrćeš riječi?
    Onako malo

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    Ok, tek sad vidim da si to napisa' ka' odgovor na moje pitanje.
    Mislim da je baš malo tih što misle da "bolje znaju", a da je mnogo više onih što jednostavno na svu tu situaciju sa Covidom gledaju sa podozrenjem i sumnjaju u autoritete, posle X promašaja, vrdanja 90% efikasnosti, štiti-ne štiti, X laži koje su izrekli, tj. tvrdnji koje su kasnije pale
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    Jedno je struka doktora drugo je farmaceutska industrija nad kojom na primjeru pandemije jedna zemlja ne čak samo zemlja nego par pojedinaca drži monopol nad planetom.

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    Dzaba im pricate. Mi smo izgleda svi ravnozemljasi i krezubi jer u nedostatku argumenata, treba vrijedjati.
    Juri Bezmenov je vjernike u struku dobro opisao. Nazalost, to je vojska elite a svoj sopstveni dzelat.

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    A Bugi je inace sa Begicem zavrsio imunologiju pa se i u valcine razumije.bitno je da se vakcinisa pa ne bi ziv odstupio od stava (a mozda sam pogrijesio)
    doduse bio je nagrdjen u vrijeme korone,pa kad se posle vakcinisa, sebe je ubjedio da je ziv zahvaljujuci vakcini.nasi doktori blage veze sa zivotom nemaju, a ne jos da im vjerujemo na "rijec"
    Proce jos dosta dosta dok se istina o tom zlu mozda otkrije.ono sto je dobro da su ljudi u svemu ovome otvorili oči.a loše sto je dobra većina počela da izbjegava vakcinaciju djece redovnim vakcinama zbog sumnje u gore pomenutu.
    ne moze da bude da je covid poceo u novembar a da su vajni strucnjaci posle 4 mjeseca izasli sa vakcinom kojoj inace treba 10 godina izucavanja do pustanja u upotrebu, da bi se smatrala bezbjednom.
    Da zakljucim
    Moj život, moja pravila
    Ko se vakcinisa nema potrebe da se boji od nevakcinisanih i da ih proziva za bilo šta

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    Treba se prisjetiti opake kampanje protiv AZ na uštrb Fajzera.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/ursu...es-court-case/

    Vjerujmo struci okey sve ali vjerovati političarima,mm?Bilo je ljudi koji su htjeli da se vakcinišu ali su zbog kampanje Fajzera čekali baš Fajzer.Jel u redu koristiti ovako nešto u profiterske i političke svrhe.



    I ođe se dolazi do ključnoga koliko je tu profita obrnuo?Cifre postoje 1/1.

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    da se podsjetimo, ljudima su oduzimana ustavna prava jer nisu htjeli da prime u sebe medicinsko sredstvo za koje nisu htjeli da im kažu ni koji je sastav ("komercijalna tajna")
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    Što će ti osnovna prava kad ne vjeruješ u struku i što ti moraš da znaš sastav, struka zna sastav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSX View Post


    da se podsjetimo, ljudima su oduzimana ustavna prava jer nisu htjeli da prime u sebe medicinsko sredstvo za koje nisu htjeli da im kažu ni koji je sastav ("komercijalna tajna")
    Da, kod nas je konkretno bilo zabranjeno bolovanje nevakcinisanima. Znaci, razbolis se od bilo cega i ne mozes izvaditi bolovanje, neopravdano odsustvujes sa posla, dobijas otkaz - ostajes bez primanja, krepas.

    ne vidim da se neko zapitao ko su ljudi koji su to uveli i sta raditi sa njima.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aleksa111111 View Post
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    Da zakljucim
    Moj život, moja pravila
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    Zar ovo nije za sve u životu...
    Čemu onda škole, zakoni...


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    Nije ni 90% u civilizaciji đe si JBG .Osim da se preseliš u neku šumu a i šuma ima svoja nepisana pravila.

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    Znači.



    I 8ebena 3 sata na tjub traje ****** od ove političarke pod naslovom: (juče objavljen)




    Ali,pakao.
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    Ovo epizoda spominje kako su nam uvalili idiom problem-reakcija-solucija:

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    https://petermcculloughmd.substack.c...-significantly

    šta ćemo sad Bugi, jel i ovo nisu naučnici?
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    Fajzer Mafija.

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    Da se zaraze, da, sa dosta blazim simptomima i da steknu imunitet - da.

    Bez vakcine, mogucnost da se zaraze, ista.

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    https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/113

    Menstrual Abnormalities Strongly Associated with Proximity to COVID-19 Vaccinated Individuals

    Ili u prevodu prenos spajk proteina putem vazduha sa vakcinisanih na nevakcinisane je dokazan.


    A evo šta je Reuters "fact-check" svojevremeno rekao:
    https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...idUSL1N2MG256/

    Fact Check: COVID vaccines do not ‘shed’ from one person to another and then cause reproductive problems

    “This is a conspiracy that has been created to weaken trust in a series of vaccines that have been demonstrated in clinical trials to be safe and effective”

    Ovo je zavjera, vakcine su sigurne i efikasne. Ista, pokvarena ploča.

    Količinu plasiranih laži teško može i pas s maslom pojesti, a kamoli Bugi i njemu slični.



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    Sajt koji ima u nazivu ijtpr.org zaslužuje naročitu pažnju.

    Naročito jer urednik profesor lingvistike, a moderator oftamolog


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    Kako ne izmislise vakcinu protiv zmijskog otrova?

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    Pa jesu ali kad postaneš ambasador u Brazil jer tamo ima masu zmija moraš da je primiš ovako si miran.Zbilja ovi ambasadori nije im ga lako.

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    1 lijepa vijest iz zatvoreničke kolon.. ovaj, Australije








    Doctor who was banned from practising after warning against Covid vaccines gets his licence back



    An outspoken doctor who labels Covid vaccines 'the crime of the century' has forced medical authorities to hand back his licence after a two-year suspension in a stunning court win.
    Queensland's Supreme Court saw the extraordinary triumph by Dr William Bay on Friday, who self-represented against a top legal team employed by the Queensland Medical Board and Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency (AHPRA).

    In his ruling Justice Thomas Bradley was scathing in describing the conduct of the two medical regulators as 'profoundly unsatisfactory' and their accusations against Dr Bay as 'entirely unfounded'.
    On his X account Dr Bay said that having won his case, where he was awarded costs and had all ongoing investigations dismissed, he would keep speaking out.
    'We will not forget the vaccine-injured and the crime of the century is now exposed,' he tweeted and also posted a video with a group of supporters outside the courtroom.
    In Sunday interview with Sky News show The Outsiders Dr Bay showed no sign of damping down his rhetoric, which saw him form activist group the Queensland People's Protest while praticing as a GP during the pandemic.

    He accused the regulators of doing a 'criminal thing' by issuing 'a gag order to all nurses, doctors, psychologists and every other health practitioner in Australia to shut up and be quiet about the risks of the so-called Covid vaccines'.

    ' This was disastrous for the health and safety of every day Australians because it meant doctors like me could not speak freely to our patients about the risks of these vaccines,' he said.


    'So, whether you wanted them or not you were being forced into taking them without proper informed consent.

    'This was a criminal act by APHRA and the head of the medical board because they denied Australians the right to choose freely, thus being responsible for the injury and deaths of thousands people in Australia.
    'Deaths and injuries that could not be revealed by your local general practitioner, or your cardiologist or your surgeon because we were prohibited by the medical regulator from speaking the truth.'
    One of the complaints brought to the Medical Board leading to the licence suspension was Dr Bay loudly interrupting a conference held by the Australian Medical Association in July 2022.
    Dr Bay accused then Chief Medical Officer Professor Paul Kelly of gaslighting doctors about the safety of the vaccines.
    'He called on those at the conference to 'join with the people of Australia and stop forcing these vaccines on people who are getting killed by them' before being physically hustled out of the room, all of which he filmed.
    Justice Bradley found that AHPRA and the Queensland Medical Board failed to show where Dr Bay had breached relevant legislation or his professional code of conduct.


    In doing so the Medical Board had acted beyond the powers conferred on it, which did not 'include protection of government and regulatory agencies from political criticism'.

    The judge also found Dr Bay was denied procedural fairness because no accusation that he had practiced unlawfully was put to him and he was also denied hearing 'before an apparently unbiased tribunal'.

    None of the complaints concerned his clinical conduct and practice of medicine.
    'I did the right thing,' Dr Bay told The Outsiders.
    'I never broke the code of conduct and now freedom of speech and informed consent have been vindicated.'
    Asked why more doctors had not spoken out against the risk of the vaccines Dr Bay said his fellow medical practitioners 'are great people, they are intelligent people but they are also human beings'.
    He said understood why doctors and nurses were silent when 'a medical regulator ... comes at you and threatens your career, threatens all your years of study, your family, your money, like they did me and takes it all away from you in just a moment'.

    'That does not necessarily excuse the doctors and nurses who stayed silent because there is a responsibility to patients, there is a responsibility to protect them from harm and to tell the truth,' Dr Bay said.

    'I was able to get through this loss of career, loss of income, marriage breakdown the whole nine yards of intimidation from the bullies of AHPRA because I have strong faith in God.'

    Dr Bay said the risks of the Covid vaccines have not been shared with the public.
    Those included bloodstream clots, heart inflammation, turbo cancers and immune deficiencies.
    'You have not been given informed consent,' he said.
    'These risks are certainly not relevant or appropriate to children. My message would be do not vaccinate your children (against Covid) because the harms and risk of harms are simply not worth the alleged benefit of which there is none.
    'People have died, people have been told to shut up but no more because the Supreme Court has ruled that freedom of speech and the right to informed consent is alive again in Australia.'


    Dr Bay also claimed the vaccines do not work, a view he shares with UK oncology professor Angus Dalgleish, who told 2GB interviewer Ben Fordham last month he didn't believe the vaccines had 'any beneficial effect whatsoever'.

    These views fly in the face of Australia's official medical advice, which maintains the Covid vaccines have a very low risk factor.
    The Health Department states on its website that Covid vaccines 'have been thoroughly assessed by the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) and found to be safe and effective'.

    'The TGA checks all Covid-19 vaccines for quality, safety and effectiveness before approving them for use in Australia,' the department said.
    'This is the same process that all vaccines go through in Australia. Medical experts at the TGA continuously check all vaccines to make sure they are safe.
    'Vaccines are only approved for use in Australia after they have been assessed to show that the benefits of the vaccine outweigh any risks.'
    Over the past few months four local governments in four different states have voted to express concern that the MNRA Covid vaccines are contaminated with dangerously high levels of plasmid DNA and a cancer-producing agent.


    The motions follow the lead of the Port Hedland Council in northern West Australia, which voted to send letters expressing their concerns the vaccines cause cancer to local governments around Australia.
    These claims were labelled as 'misinformation' by the TGA.
    The watchdog said they were 'based on studies that currently fall short of the scientific rigour expected in pharmaceutical testing and are contributing to the spread of vaccine misinformation'.
    Claims that Covid vaccines cause excess deaths and 'turbo cancers' have also been repeatedly denied by medical authorities.
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkMaster View Post
    Kako ne izmislise vakcinu protiv zmijskog otrova?

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    Zmija ujede 5.5 miliona ljudi od kojih 0.1 milion umre.

    To znači da ujede svakog 1500 građanina svijeta, a da podlegne otrovu 0.0000125%.






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