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    Nece ni ako im dodje Majkl Sumaha sa Rorijem i Brownom i F2002.
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    I da su pametni da guraju Sainza kao prvog vozača. Momak je dosta dobar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mur3633 View Post
    I da su pametni da guraju Sainza kao prvog vozača. Momak je dosta dobar.
    Nije komentar zbog toga sto navijam za Leklera, ali mn Sainz nije materijal za sampiona. Mislim da ne bi izdrzao taj pritisak, ali vidjet cemo. Lekler sad mora malo da se pokaze. Ova sezona je bila dosta losa sto se tice srece i taktike cesto, ali mora mnogo bolje i vise da se potrudi.

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    Lekler a vidi zid se ukaka, kad nema sirine slabo vozi

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    Ja se uvijek sjetim voznje u Monci i Silverstona dje su se on i Maks cijepali cijelu trku. Slab je bio sa cuvanjem pozicije ove godine, ali opet msm da je to vise do toga sto je po meni njihova cijela sezona bila tako dosadna. Sad da me pitas ko ti je ove sezone bio najnebitniji tim, sa najmanje prikazivanja i generalno desavanjima oko njega, rekao bih Ferari. Ja ih nidje nisam primijetio, ali bukvalno. Mozda je samo do mene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mur3633 View Post
    I da su pametni da guraju Sainza kao prvog vozača. Momak je dosta dobar.

    Tako je.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikola PG View Post
    Nije komentar zbog toga sto navijam za Leklera, ali mn Sainz nije materijal za sampiona. Mislim da ne bi izdrzao taj pritisak, ali vidjet cemo. Lekler sad mora malo da se pokaze. Ova sezona je bila dosta losa sto se tice srece i taktike cesto, ali mora mnogo bolje i vise da se potrudi.


    Jeli Leka popusio od Sanza?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAKUMI View Post
    Tako je.





    Jeli Leka popusio od Sanza?
    Po bodovima jeste, ali ja i ti mozemo sad odma da se kladimo ko ce imat bolje rezultate u buducnosti ili ako ti je lakse ko je bolji vozac od njih dvojice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mur3633 View Post
    Zbilja je čovjek naglo popustio kad je 2014.g. prešao u Ferrari. Sjećam se šta je radio u Lotusu 2012. i 2013., a da ne spominjem prije toga. Kad dođe era Hibrida i Ferrari, postao je totalno drugi vozač. Šteta.
    Ja batalih i prije Lotusa, 2008, tako da sam bas van F1 podosta...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antares View Post
    Ja batalih i prije Lotusa, 2008, tako da sam bas van F1 podosta...
    Vjerujes li da si za tih 13 godina propustio samo 2 dobre sezone, i to je ova sad jedna od te dvije sto su valjale

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikola PG View Post



    Hmmmm?
    Sjetih se sad da sam objavio ovo posle Jeddah, ponovi se istorija

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    Ovo sam trazio juce…
    Samo su trebali napisat RENAULT SA NOVIM IMENOM.
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    ada...kaze ono sto kaze citav svijet...max zasluzio a sudije sramota za ovaj sport...

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    kazite vi meni ovo (s obzirom da ne pratim ove boranija sezone zadnjih par godina)
    hocemo li iduce godine imati treceg i cetvrtog vozaca koji mogu da pobijede?
    ili da gledamo maksa i hamiltona opet?
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    Nema sanse, Ferrari kao nesto prdnjavi ali mislim da nema sanse

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    Quote Originally Posted by dub_c View Post
    kazite vi meni ovo (s obzirom da ne pratim ove boranija sezone zadnjih par godina)
    hocemo li iduce godine imati treceg i cetvrtog vozaca koji mogu da pobijede?
    ili da gledamo maksa i hamiltona opet?
    To bukvalno niko ne moze da zna, od sledece sezone F1 postaje potpuno drugi sport u odnosu na ovo sto je bila poslednjih osam godina, motori se ne mijenjaju ali sve ostalo se mijenja. Nema Honde RBR postaje samostalni proizvodjac motora, vjerovatno i snabdjevac drugim ekipama u narednim godinama, ali sigurno da Mercedes i dalje ima najbolji motor.

    Ferari je ove sezone pokazao jak napredak u odnosu na proslu, sigurno je da su ipak bacili sve sto imaju na sezonu 2022. i nova pravila. Meklaren je od Rusije totalno popustio, vjerovatno su od tada i oni bacili sav fokus na sledecu sezonu. Has je nebitan ali su jasno rekli jos prosle godine u ovo doba 2021. ih ne zanima, nema nijednog paketa, sve sto imaju resursa bice potroseno na 2022. Tako su razmisljali maltene svi sem Mercedesa i Red Bula, bila je dobra borba Meklarena i Ferarija do poslednjih par mjeseci kad je bilo jasno da Meklaren vise ne moze da ih prati.

    Vjerujem da ce Mercedes i Red Bul imati jake bolide i biti konkurentni, ali ne treba se iznenaditi ako npr. Alpina ili Aston Martin bude najbolji prvih 5-6 trka, nikad se ne zna, cim se promijeni era sve je moguce. Prva testiranja su veoma brzo u Barseloni, a i 20. mart nije daleko i otvaranje sezone u Bahreinu.
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    Za one koji ne prate sta se desava od sledece sezone evo najkrace moguce, a zaista toga ima mnogo.

    1. It’s been designed specifically to promote better racing
    The 2022 regulations, originally slated to arrive in 2021 but delayed by Covid-19, had one guiding principle: to allow closer racing – with the potential for more overtakes a happy, but secondary, benefit.
    What’s preventing closer racing currently? The effect of the "catastrophic downforce loss" – to quote an engineer centrally involved with the project – resulting from the ‘dirty air’ being churned chaotically off a leading car currently.


    2. The car will feature over-wheel winglets for the first time – and wheel covers are back!
    Two of the striking features on the 2022 car are its over-wheel winglets and a return to a feature last seen in F1 in 2009 – wheel covers.


    The inclusion of the latter is simple: sending airflow through the wheels might be an enormously potent way for teams to increase their downforce, but it also adds to that chaotic aerodynamic wake coming off the cars.


    Although there have been changes to the 2022 regulations to limit what teams can do around the tyres aerodynamically, F1’s Motorsports team wanted to take a belt-and-braces approach by adding a physical seal to prevent engineers intentionally directing disruptive airflow out through the wheels.


    As for the over-wheel winglets, their job is to help control the wake coming off the front tyres and direct it away from the rear wing. That’s been a role traditionally performed by vortices from the front wing – but in a way that makes them hugely sensitive when running in following car conditions. The winglets will achieve the same thing, but in a way that is more aerodynamically resilient in close racing.


    3. The car will feature 18” wheels with low-profile tyres for the first time
    F1 fans will have recently seen lots of footage of teams testing Pirelli’s bigger 18” wheels in readiness for next year.


    The new Pirelli compounds and constructions for these 18” wheels have been designed with the goal of reducing the amount the tyres overheat when they slide – a primary aspect that should help with closer racing.


    The lower profile tyres also have the added benefit of reducing the sidewall deflection changes and the resulting aerodynamic wake effect that occurs. The teams spend a lot of effort on simulating the airflow regimes around the tyre shapes and interactions with the car bodywork. Reducing the sensitivity in this area will be a benefit in both the car design process and resource required – something that's particularly important in the era of the cost cap.


    4. The front wing and nose concept have been completely re-thought
    Although front wings have been getting progressively simpler in recent seasons, the 2022 F1 car will feature a totally new front wing shape.


    Keeping with the philosophy of the 2022 car, the new front wing’s job is to both generate consistent downforce when running closely behind another car, and ensure that the front wheel wake is well controlled and directed down the car in the least disruptive way.
    That means not sending the wake dramatically outboard, as is done on the current cars, nor letting it spill under the floor and get ingested by the diffuser, but instead steering it narrowly down the side of the car as much as possible. Or as one engineer on the project put it, the 2022 car’s front wing is designed simply to be an "anti-outwash" front wing.


    5. An aero feature from the 70s is back! (sort of)
    F1’s Motorsports team began work on the 2022 car back in 2017 – and it soon became apparent that the key change required to ensure closer racing would be placing the aerodynamic emphasis on ground effect to create downforce.


    Ground effect came to prominence in F1 in the late 1970s, with cars effectively designed in the shape of upside-down airplane wings, creating huge amounts of downforce as they were pushed into the track.


    Full ground effect cars were subsequently outlawed at the end of 1982 – and the 2022 car is certainly not a return to that era (there are no side skirts for a start!). But the 2022 car does feature fully shaped underfloor tunnels, rather than the stepped floor used currently, which will allow teams to generate large amounts of efficient downforce through ground effect (the current floors also exploit ground effect, but not to the same extent).
    The reason for the change is the benign quality of downforce generated in ground effect. Current cars’ barge boards and other bits of aerodynamic furniture are designed to send vortices under the floor to increase downforce. But when those vortices stop working – due, for example, to the influence of closely following another car – the performance drop-off is huge.
    With the 2022 car, however, the underfloor downforce is better preserved within the tunnels, without the reliance on arrays of wake-sensitive, vortex-generating geometries – ergo better following, ergo closer racing!




    6. The rear wing features new ‘rolled tips’
    That rather beautiful, art deco-looking rear wing on the 2022 car (an automotive stylist contributed to aspects of the 2022 car’s overall look, incidentally) actually has an important function – and it’s to do with mushrooms. Let us explain…


    While current cars’ rear wings direct airflow upwards, they are also designed to send flow outwards, leaving the ‘dirty air’ sitting there for the following car to drive through. By contrast, the shape and position of the 2022 car’s rear wing creates a rotational airflow that collects the rear wheel wake and rolls it into the flow exiting the diffuser – forming an invisible ‘mushroom’-shaped wake.


    This narrower wake is then thrown – thanks also to a steeper diffuser ramp – high up into the air, allowing a following car to drive through less disrupted ‘clean air’.


    DRS remains on the rear wing, meanwhile, with the Motorsports team keen to study its effect in conjunction with the rule changes.


    7. It will use the same power unit as 2021
    Many, many things are new on the 2022 car – but the power unit is not one of them, with Formula 1 set to retain the current 1.6-litre turbo-hybrid units. This is no bad thing, given that they’re already the most advanced and most efficient engines on the planet.


    There will, however, be some more standard components in the fuel system, as well as some additional sensors to allow the FIA to better monitor the power units.


    The big change is actually what will be coursing through those 1.6-litre engines, namely…


    8. Cars will run on more sustainable fuel
    Current regulations see cars running on fuel containing 5.75% bio-components.


    And while F1 is still working hard to introduce fully sustainable fuel in the near-future, 2022 will see the bio-component ratio rise to 10%. That will be achieved through a move to ‘E10 fuel’ – ‘E’ standing for ethanol, while ‘10’ refers to its percentage in the mixture.


    Crucially, though, that ethanol must be a second generation biofuel made in a sustainable way, meaning it will have a near-zero carbon footprint – an “interim step”, in the words of Formula 1’s Chief Technical Officer Pat Symonds, which will also help the sport align with current road car fuel regulations.


    9. Safety has been at the forefront of the design
    It almost goes without saying that a new generation of Formula 1 cars comes with the opportunity to make the sport even safer – and that’s certainly the case with the 2022 car.


    The chassis now need to absorb 48% and 15% more energy respectively in the front and rear impact tests, as well as greater forces in the static ‘squeeze’ tests required to homologate the chassis and certify their strength.


    Lessons have been learned, too, from recent major crashes, including that of Romain Grosjean at the 2020 Bahrain Grand Prix – with the cars now designed in such a way that, in the event of a crash, the power unit will separate from the chassis in a safe manner without exposing the fuel tank.


    Meanwhile, learnings from the FIA’s investigation into Formula 2 racer Anthoine Hubert’s fatal accident at Spa in 2019 were also incorporated, principally a longer nose section to help dissipate energy in a crash, together with stronger chassis sides to resist T-bone incidents.


    It’s also true that those safety improvements, as well as the heavier and more robust tyres, have seen a weight increase, with the minimum car weight having risen by around 5% from 752kg currently to 790kg.


    10. The 2022 car has been put through over 7,500 simulations to get to this point
    F1 is nothing if not a thorough sport – and as you can imagine, creating the 2022 car has not been a ‘finger in the air’ exercise.


    Instead, F1’s Motorsports team have run approximately 7,500 simulations, creating around half a petabyte of data. That’s the equivalent of a third of the 10 billion photos on Facebook, or 10 million four-drawer filing cabinets full of text documents.
    Those 7,500 simulations also took 16.5 million core hours to solve, meaning if they’d been done on a high-spec Intel i9 quad core laptop, it would have taken until the year 2492 – 471 years from now – to get the solutions.


    The 2022 car was also developed in exclusive sessions in Sauber’s wind tunnel in Switzerland, with 138 ‘baseline configurations’ experimented with over two years, with around 100 ‘wind on’ hours.


    Meanwhile, the teams have also been granted regulatory freedom to test the current 2022 car iteration – or the ‘UNIFORM’ baseline as it’s known internally, given that it’s the 21st significant update – for methodology development in their wind tunnels and CFD (provided they don’t alter the shape), with the feedback from the teams having been a crucial part of the design and development process.


    And there you have it – the 10 key things you need to know about the 2022 car.
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    I pitanje je oće li Russel pristati da bude u službi Hamiltona.

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    Naravno da oce, lik je postao sramotan cim je dobio ugovor sa Mercedesom, nista od tada nije vidjeno od njega, to dovoljno govori o njegovoj gladi. On svakako ne moze trkacki da parira Luisu, ali i jucerasnji tvitovi su dokaz da se samo mijenja ime, Botas je i dalje u Mercedesu.

    Vise me brine Norisov pad, on je izgledao kao jedini koji moze da parira ovoj dvojci, tu ne racunam Alonsa, on da ima bolid svakako bi se borio za titulu. Rikardov povratak pak je ono sto raduje. Lekler je meni totalno razocarenje, ali ja svakako smatram da je Sajnc mnogo bitniji za razvoj tog Ferarija i ono sto je radio za Meklaren sad radi za Ferari. Mentalno ne postoji stabilniji lik. Pouzdan je maksimalno. Lekler je brzi ali i Kimi je bio brz, pa karijeru zavrsava sa 21 pobjedom.
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    Jakuza, po cemu je Mercov motor bolji od Hondinog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAKUMI View Post
    Jakuza, po cemu je Mercov motor bolji od Hondinog?

    Quote Originally Posted by Biznismen Podgorica View Post
    Oli da se kladimo ti das 50e a ja cu 200e.
    Ako ne prodje ti imas 200e.. :wink:

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    Sezona se tek zavrsila i ovo su bas lupanja sa moje strane, ali ja kazem da ce RB da bude novi Mercedes, ili cemo gledat nesto skroz ludo dje ce neko novi da dodje sa predobrim paketom.

    Promjene su bas velike i jako je tesko to ispratit kao sto je do sad bila samo nadogradnja. Vidjet cemo sve za otprilike 100 dana

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    hvala na ovim informacijama
    vracam se da pratim 2022 kao nekad 2002
    v16 u sve 16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikola PG View Post
    Sezona se tek zavrsila i ovo su bas lupanja sa moje strane, ali ja kazem da ce RB da bude novi Mercedes, ili cemo gledat nesto skroz ludo dje ce neko novi da dodje sa predobrim paketom.

    Promjene su bas velike i jako je tesko to ispratit kao sto je do sad bila samo nadogradnja. Vidjet cemo sve za otprilike 100 dana
    ja bas mislim da ce RB da se vrati na trece mjesto...

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    Nadam se da nece, a sad za sad je sve nepoznato. Najbolji ce biti onaj koji bude primijenio nova pravila kako treba.
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