View Poll Results: Da li ćete dobrovoljno primiti vakcinu protiv koronavirusa?

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  • Da, apsolutno! To je jedina razumna odluka, svaka dalja diskusija je – izlišna

    55 27.78%
  • Da, pod uslovom da je ta vakcina odobrena za primjenu u EU tj. nije varijanta za zemlje 3. svijeta

    62 31.31%
  • Ne, nemam povjerenja u efikasnost prebrzo razvijene vakcine/ nepoznati dugoročni efekti po zdravlje

    50 25.25%
  • Ne, nisam pristalica vakcinisanja generalno, kao vida zaštite od bolesti

    20 10.10%
  • Ne znam. Lomim se oko odluke

    11 5.56%
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Thread: [COVID] Vakcine i tok pandemije [opšta diskusija]

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSX View Post
    u komentarima ispod tog tvita imaš (i još mnogo takvih)

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    Od drugaricine mame kolega sa posla primio AZ i sutra imao srcani udar i umro. Jel' mislis da je to slučajnost i da je usao u ovu statistiku? Jeste, kao sto sam ja rodjen u Sudanu...

    Kako neko uopste moze da vjeruje random komentarima po internetu? Cus umro kolega od mamine drugarice....

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    takvih komentara nema jedan nego gomila, da li stvarno vjeruješ da je neko pravio hiljadu lažnih naloga da bi pisao protiv vakcina...na kraju krajeva to su stvari koje se dešavaju nevezano za vakcine, ako milion starih ljudi u Srbiji primi vakcinu neminovno je da za mjesec dana umre 5.000 od prirodnih razloga, najbolje da će svakog od njih ispitivati ima li vakcina neke veze sa tim
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    Quote Originally Posted by AL no1 View Post
    Koje kod nas stizu za par dana,kineske ili ruske?
    Kineske su koliko vidieh negdje na 50% efikasnosti,i razmishljaju da ih kombinuju sa nekima da bi pojachali to dejstvo...
    75%-80% Sinofarm koje nama stizu, Sinovac koje nama ne stizu niti ce 51%..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSX View Post
    evo sad će ti neki reć da je to teorija zavjere i da te sponzoriše fajzer jer je AZ jeftin i prodaje se bez profita..
    Problem sa AZ je bio sto je mnogo ljudi umrlo od nje... Na par dedetina miliona ispod 50.

    Kod drugih vakcina to nije tako. Jel tako?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antares View Post
    Problem sa AZ je bio sto je mnogo ljudi umrlo od nje... Na par dedetina miliona ispod 50.

    Kod drugih vakcina to nije tako. Jel tako?
    Ove druge su eliksir života, ko ih primi je imun na smrt bar pola godine...
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    pa za sad su mnogo efikasnije i bezbjednije, a ovo da drugi sponzorisu kampanju protiv njih je na nivou CIA Vatikan rade protiv nas Srba..
    She is only here to annoy herself!

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    Doktorka imunolog je juče mojoj ženi kazala da je radila neku usporedbu izmedju Pfizera i AZ i kaže da Pfizer ima mnogo više nuspojava ali se o tome ćuti u EU

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSX View Post
    takvih komentara nema jedan nego gomila, da li stvarno vjeruješ da je neko pravio hiljadu lažnih naloga da bi pisao protiv vakcina...na kraju krajeva to su stvari koje se dešavaju nevezano za vakcine, ako milion starih ljudi u Srbiji primi vakcinu neminovno je da za mjesec dana umre 5.000 od prirodnih razloga, najbolje da će svakog od njih ispitivati ima li vakcina neke veze sa tim
    Koliko je smrtnih slučajeva dokazano na milion stanovnika? To je jedino bitno i mjerodavno, najlakše je za svaku smrt optužiti vakcinu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSX View Post
    pa za sad su mnogo efikasnije i bezbjednije, a ovo da drugi sponzorisu kampanju protiv njih je na nivou CIA Vatikan rade protiv nas Srba..
    Oćeš da kažeš da se kod desetina miliona ljudi koji su primili Pfizer nije javljala tromboza...? Pa ona se u tom procentu javlja uobičajeno, bez ikakvih vakcina...

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    da, ali se kod AZ javila u prilično povećanom broju...
    She is only here to annoy herself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSX View Post
    da, ali se kod AZ javila u prilično povećanom broju...
    Interesantno veoma koliko je to "poprilicno veci broj". Ne zezaj NSX, potpuno je jasno sta se desava, a sada sa J&J blokadom jos jasnije.
    Samo slijep i onaj ko ne zeli da istrazi detaljnije nuspujave i ostalih vakcina (prvenstvno Pfizer/Moderna) ne vidi cijelu sliku.

    Ejjj, "blokiran" J&J radi 6 slucajeva na 7 miliona. Kako se pomno prate te teze nuspojave kod svih vakcina osim Pfizera/Moderne a njihove zataskavaju (iako ih je poprilicno lagano naci)...
    Nesto cudno se u danasnje vrijeme pise "Samo mRNA vakcine su prihvatljive!".

    Ne sumnjam da bi ista spika bila i protiv RU/CH vakcina da su oficijalno dozvoljene u EU/USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSX View Post
    da, ali se kod AZ javila u prilično povećanom broju...
    Koji je to broj/procenat...? Po onome što je dostupno na netu, procenat je manji nego što je uobičajen prosjek...

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    Ne vrijedi sa NSX-om o ovome. Jednostavno ga je google uzeo pod svoje i hrani ga samo sa onim sto zeli da cuje

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    Jes, juce sam ga sreo. Totalno je opcinjen guglom, veli hoce sinu da da ima GUGLO.
    Prema tome, šta da ti kažem?

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    The move has been dubbed a "complete disgrace" by Britons furious at the perceived political motivation behind the suspension.
    One Express.co.uk reader said: "I actually despise the EU more than words could ever express adequately but I never in my wildest dreams thought they would publicly display so vividly to the rest of the world their mind-blowing childishness, pettiness, jealousy, envy and desperation in their doomed quest to destroy Great Britain and anything to do with Great Britain.
    "I lost family members in two world wars to help that continent.
    "I sincerely hope they go back to the dark ages and rot in purgatory."
    Someone else said: "Look at the statistics: The chances of getting a blood clot in your lifetime is between 3 and 5 percent.
    "The chance of getting it from the vaccine (based upon the given statistics) is 0.0004545454545 percent).
    "This is a political move by the EU to discredit the AZ vaccine and frighten people.



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    @buzzmissman
    Uh, THE BRITONS... Sto malo ne napadaju i bracu iz USA.

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    Israeli data shows South African variant able to ‘break through’ Pfizer vaccine
    The research, which has been posted online but not yet peer-reviewed, is likely to raise questions about Pfizer’s own real-world study, which found that in South Africa, despite the local strain being prevalent, the vaccine was 100 percent effective.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/real-w...ssing-vaccine/

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    http://www.b92.net/zdravlje/vesti.ph...nav_id=1842636

    "Agencija navodi da je istraživanje takođe otkrilo da je važna komponenta imunološkog sistema, poznata kao T ćelije, pokazala jači odgovor kod onih koji su dobili vakcinu Astrazeneke nego što je bila kod onih koji su dobili Fajzerovu vakcinu, za šta naučnici smatraju da je podatak koji treba dalje proučavati."

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    Denmark becomes first country in Europe to abandon AstraZeneca's COVID vaccine

    https://www.euronews.com/2021/04/14/...-covid-vaccine


    Vektorske vakcine otpadaju u EU

    “The European Commission, in agreement with the leaders of many (EU) countries, has decided that the contracts with the companies that produce (viral vector) vaccines that are valid for the current year will not be renewed at their expiry,” the newspaper reported.

    It added that Brussels would rather focus on COVID-19 vaccines using messenger RNA (mRNA) technology, such as Pfizer’s and Moderna’s.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2C10MU


    Dakle, mRNA je budućnost

    Moderna Announces Clinical Progress from its Industry-Leading mRNA Vaccine Franchise and Continues Investments to Accelerate Pipeline Development



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    Svi koji su se u Srbiji i inostranstvu vakcinisali prvom dozom,osim sa Sputnik V omogućeno je vakcinisanje drugom dozom u CG

    https://www.vijesti.me/v/530207

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    Quote Originally Posted by buzzmissman View Post
    Svi koji su se u Srbiji i inostranstvu vakcinisali prvom dozom,osim sa Sputnik V omogućeno je vakcinisanje drugom dozom u CG

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    CG nema podatak o broju vakcinisanih građana CG u inostranstvu.

    Znači ono kad su nas unosili u bazu gore....
    ipak je čipovanje u pitanju.

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    To mi nije jasno.Postoji za svakoga QR kod ovi naši nijesu izgleda umreženi

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    Pošto znam par njih koji su se vakcinisali u Srbiji,procedura je bila da se jave lokalnom centru za vakcinaciju i pokažu papir da su vakcinisani tamo. To se znalo skoro prije destak dana. Ne znam zašto je tek sad objavljeno.

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    Moja supruga je prekjuče pitala za mene kad je bila da se vakciniše.Rekli su joj da ne mogu u CG drugu dozu, pošto sam vakcinisan sa AZ,jer je u Srbiji period izmedju dvije doze 3 mjeseca

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    Quote Originally Posted by starwalker View Post
    It added that Brussels would rather focus on COVID-19 vaccines using messenger RNA (mRNA) technology, such as Pfizer’s and Moderna’s.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2C10MU
    Kako cudno... Ovaj, ocekivano.

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