Reply With QuoteZnate li ima li gdje maski da se kupi?
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ja ne mogu da vjerujem da ne UMIJEMO poštovat par osnovih stvari. ka’ da je nuklearna fizika a ne rastojanje 2m, 50 ljudi u prostoriji itd
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Znate li ima li gdje maski da se kupi?
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Nego kako napravit masku ?????
Gando, Brodomaketar ili neko drugi..
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Ja ih tražih za kolege na nekoliko mjesta nema. I to ono u smislu sad si došao za maske, a mi ih nemamo evo 10 dana.
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A ko da postuje brate, ovaj narod sa IQ 86?Originally Posted by no-mercy
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Epidemije virusa i gripe COVID-19
"Sa zabrinutošću upozoravamo da zaposlene na kasama u više prodajnih lanaca ne nose rukavice, nemaju zaštitne maske, a nije obezbijeđeno ni ograničavanje broja kupaca u odnosu na površinu prodajnog objekta, tako da na deset kvadratnih metara površine prodajnog objekta može da se nalazi samo jedan potrošač, kao ni obaveza odgovornih lica u trgovinskim objektima da obezbijede/označe rastojanje od najmanje dva metra između lica koja se nalaze ispred prodajnih objekata, na kasama i sektorima u kojima se roba uslužuje od strane zaposlenih lica u prodajnom objektu. Ovakvo poslovno ponašanje ugrožava prvenstveno zdravlje Vaših zaposlenih - većinom žena, a potom i opšte zdravlje stanovništva", navodi se u saopštenju Centra.
https://www.vijesti.me/vijesti/drust...-mjere-zastite
dakle sinoć je bila konferencija dje je jasno sve rečeno. na svim portalima su jasno bile napisane sve mjere i opet ljudi ne mogu da skapiraju izgleda kako stoje stvari i da ispoštuju sve. kakav smo mi narod
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„Najveća tragedija u mom životu je smrt Ane Karenjine.“ - Dovlatov
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Imam ja par videa samo objasni kako da okačim. Baš lagano je napravit masku
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stvar je u psihologiji mase, a ona vas vidim i jutros iznenadjuje. ako kojim srecnim slucajem sve ovo ostane isto 20 dana, trazice se ukidanje svega ovoga, ukidanje obaveznog karantina i vracanje na "samoizolaciju" a svi znamo sta to znaci. mogu li ja za lijek u srbiju, mogu li ja na putovanje... pa kad se vratimo onda nije mi nista sigurno, ajmo na kafu nedje.
nije ovo samo kod nas, nisu ni evropljani bolji. zato pominjem da iako na prvu loptu zvuce kao pametna rjesenja, sada samo doprinose opstoj panici a za 20 dana ce biti "nema to veze, eto smo prosli bez toga, bravo za nas".
ne cujem nijedan scenario sta posle, a to me brine
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Banke zatvaraju pojedine poslovnice CKB Palada ne radi do daljnjeg.
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'Zajednistvo', iliti kako je EU 'prodala' Italiju.
The EU Is Abandoning Italy in Its Hour of Need
In a shameful abdication of responsibility, fellow countries in the European Union have failed to give medical assistance and supplies to Italy during an outbreak. China is filling the void.
Italy is in lockdown. Schools and universities are closed, soccer games suspended, and restaurant visits banned amid a rapid spread of the novel coronavirus in the country. Just grocery stores and pharmacies are allowed to stay open, and only absolutely necessary travel is permitted. One might think that fellow European Union countries would count their blessings and send their Italian friends a few vital supplies, especially since the Italians have asked for it. They have sent nothing.
EU countries’ shameful lack of solidarity with the Italians points to a larger problem: What would European countries do if one of them faced an even greater crisis?
The Union Civil Protection Mechanism is the bland name under which the EU’s crisis hub—the Emergency Response Coordination Centre—operates. It monitors natural and manmade disasters around the clock, and when an EU member state can no longer handle a crisis on its own it can turn to the crisis hub. The hub forwards the appeal to other member states, which can then volunteer assistance. (The assistance is later reimbursed by the recipient country.)
Two years ago, for example, with devastating forest fires spreading around the country, Sweden turned to the Emergency Response Coordination Centre, and Stockholm’s plea yielded a heartwarming response. Portugal sent two firefighting aircraft; Germany contributed five helicopters and 53 firefighters; Lithuania sent one helicopter and Norway eight. France dispatched 60 firefighters and two aircraft; Denmark sent 60 firefighters; Poland sent over 130 firefighters and more than 40 fire trucks. Italy, itself in a dangerous forest-fire season, sent two aircraft.
When the European helpers arrived in Sweden, locals greeted them with applause. It was a powerful illustration of a frequently forgotten reality: The European Union is about more than tedious financial transactions; it’s also about helping fellow European countries in need.
The European Union is about more than tedious financial transactions; it’s also about helping fellow European countries in need.
Last month, when COVID-19 began spreading rapidly in Italy, the country appealed for help via the Emergency Response Coordination Centre. “We asked for supplies of medical equipment, and the European Commission forwarded the appeal to the member states,” Italy’s permanent representative to the EU, Maurizio Massari, told me. “But it didn’t work.”
So far, not a single EU member state has sent Italy the needed supplies. That’s tragic for a country with 21,157 coronavirus infections and 1,441 deaths as of March 14, and with medical staff working under severe shortages of supplies.
To be sure, all governments need to make sure they have enough supplies for their own hospitals, patients, and medical staff. But no European country is suffering remotely as badly as Italy. Spain and France have a high caseload, but as of March 14, Finland has just 225 cases, and Italy’s neighbor Austria only 655. Portugal has 169 cases; Ireland 90; Romania, 109; Poland, 93; Bulgaria, 37; and Hungary has 25 cases. Many of those countries have benefited greatly from European solidarity in the past; a number of them are net beneficiaries of the EU, meaning they get more money out of their membership than they pay into it. The United Kingdom, no longer a member of the European Union, has 1,140 coronavirus cases—and it, too, has failed to help the Italians.
On March 12, a Chinese aircraft landed in Rome carrying nine medical experts and 31 tons of medical supplies including intensive care unit equipment, medical protective equipment, and antiviral drugs.
In the meantime, a partial and flawed savior has arrived. Close to midnight on March 12, a Chinese aircraft landed in Rome carrying nine medical experts and 31 tons of medical supplies including intensive care unit equipment, medical protective equipment, and antiviral drugs. Around the same time, a Chinese truck arrived in Italy bringing more than 230 boxes of medical equipment. It was less than Chinese State Councilor Wang Yi had promised Foreign Minister Luigi Di Maio of Italy in a phone call on Tuesday, but two days after the phone call the supplies were on their way.
Italy has already had a taste of Europe’s lack of solidarity. During the 2015 refugee crisis some 1.7 million people arrived on EU territory, mostly in Italy and Greece (with Germany and Sweden the most common destinations), but in 2017 some EU member states were still refusing to accept them under a solidarity scheme. “The coronavirus crisis is similar to the refugee crisis: Countries that are not immediately affected are mostly not willing to help,” Massari said. “Different countries obviously have different threat perceptions. We [Italy] feel that the coronavirus is a global and European threat that needs a European response, but other countries don’t see it that way.”
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Disasters Like The Coronavirus Don’t Happen In a Vacuum
Europe’s selfishness is morally lamentable, and it’s unwise, because misery loves company. A struggling Italy will drag its European friends down, too, starting with their economies. But the cold response to Italy’s plea points to a larger issue: How would European allies respond in case of crisis even more devastating than the coronavirus—say, a massive cyberattack that knocks out power for a prolonged period of time? Without electrical power, other critical functions quickly cease to function, too. Brno University Hospital— home to one of the Czech Republic’s largest COVID-19 testing labs—has already been hit by a serious cyber attack.
The fact that no country—with the possible exception of China—can survive without close allies is the reason that NATO was founded 71 years ago and the European Coal and Steel Community three years later. NATO’s member states are supposed to do their best to defend their countries, but they all know that they need one another: Collective defense is NATO’s raison d’ętre. Only the United States has considerable supplies of ammunition; all the other member states know that they can turn to the U.S. military if they run out, as happened during NATO’s 2011 intervention in Libya.
Yet at a moment of extreme hardship for a key EU (and NATO) member, Italy’s allies are showing that they can’t be counted on in a severe crisis—and that means Italy may increasingly turn toward China. It will remain stalwart member of the EU and NATO, but why should it support its various European allies next time they’re in a pinch? And why should it pay heed to European allies’ calls for it to reverse its participation in China’s Belt and Road Initiative, which it joined last year?
Italy’s allies are showing that they can’t be counted on in a severe crisis—and that means Italy may increasingly turn toward China.
The Belt and Road, China’s vast global infrastructure program, involves investments and constructions in a range of countries, primarily developing countries. Italy and China have, however, been deepening their cooperation through the Belt and Road Initiative and beyond; last year, a police cooperation program saw Chinese police officers patrol the streets of Rome and Milan.
And why should Italy keep its some 6,000 troops on foreign missions, troops who lead and make up large parts of the United Nations’ peacekeeping mission in Lebanon and NATO’s forces in Kosovo, soldiers who help defend Latvia as part of NATO’s Enhanced Forward Presence, and sailors who participate in the EU’s mission combating Somali piracy and who police the western Mediterranean for the benefit not just of Italy but the rest of Europe, too?
On March 13, the European Commission stepped in to at least help Italy’s economy, but so far no medical assistance from member states has materialized.
If Europe can’t send face masks, why should Italy keep its some 6,000 troops on foreign missions, troops who lead and make up large parts of the United Nations’ peacekeeping mission in Lebanon and NATO’s forces in Kosovo
Indeed, with the current lack of solidarity, the EU might lose Italy’s affection—and China will happily continue to take advantage of the situation. That mustn’t happen.
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Najlakse na youtube pa link da okacis
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Sta posle 20 dana ? Vrlo jednostavno jos 20 pa ako treba jos pet puta po 20 . Sve dok se u svijetu ne smiri epidemija .
U Italijo preko 2000 zarazenih med radnika sta mislite koliko treba kod nas da se zarazi med radnika da bi se sistem raspao ?
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To je liberalni (fašistički) pristup - rasterećivanje penzionih i socijalnih fondova i podmlađivanje nacije.
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Italija ima više od 2.000 zaraženih medicinskih radnika, izjavio je Karlo Palermo, nacionalni sekretar najvećeg sindikata medicinskih radnika u toj državi.
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@technus a ko je pisao taj članak? Baš je neprikladan. EU čine države, a svaka od njih ima problem sa kojim mora da se bori. Da imaš ušteđevine samo za mjesec dana i to da jedva sastaviš kraj sa krajem i da se nadaš najboljem i dođe ti komšija da ti traži da mu pozajmiš jer on nema ušteđevine, ili ima nedovoljno, šta bi ti uradio?
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pa nije bas. idu na to da se starija populacija sto je moguce vise samoizoluje. kao i oni koji imaju problema. a da ostatak "jace" populacije prihvati udar dok se ne razvije imunitet. na taj nacin prvi su na udaru mladji kojima nece svima biti potrebni respiratori, nego ce prelezati kod kuce. na taj nacin sistem nece biti preopterecen iznenadnim udarom, a stvorice se imunitet. na tu kartu igraju i njemci, samo sa malo vise kontrole.
njihova je logika da se to mora desiti, ali da se ogranici broj slucajeva kojima je neophodna hitna pomoc.
rizici su veliki, ali ljudi vjeruju drzavi pa sam misljenja da ce im se kladjenje isplatiti
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voli bd, svi zaposleni sa rukavicama, security broji ulaske/izlaske i vodi racuna da izmedju musterija bude odstojanje od nekih 1,5m..
ali ne postuju 1 kupca na 10m2. bjese bogomi 4-5 ljudi na voce i povrce, na relativno malom prostoru..
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Ako se izvuče prosjek, ljudi su izuzetno glupi. Kad to uključite u računicu, lakše ćete razumijeti zašto se narod kod nas, a i u svijetu ponaša tako kako se ponaša.
Umberto Eko je rekao "Društvene mreže su pozitivan fenomen, ali daju pravo glasa i armiji imbecila koji su prije mogli da drže govor u kafani posle čaše alkohola, bez mogućnosti da nanesu veliku štetu. Sad ti imbecili imaju isto pravo glasa kao i nobelovci"."
E, to vam je današnji svijet. Ovaj forum je zlatan što se sve može pročitati po portalima i čuti na ulici. Ako otvorite portale i pročitate što se piše ispod vijesti o novom Korona virusu, ili o bilo kojoj drugoj vijesti uostalom, onda će vam biti jasno zašto je ovaj virus i njegove posledice nevidljiv za 99% populacije, zašto mnogi ovo smatraju bjelosvjetskom zavjerom, zašto vam u redu za hljeb onaj iza kašlje za vratom, zašto vam radnica golim rukama dira hranu koju pakuje, zašto taksista kašlje u ruku kojom vam posle vrati kusur i zašto istovremeno možete vidjeti kod iste osobe story sa #Ostani doma hashtagom i nakon njega sliku od istog dana sa ispijanja kafe ili šetnje po gradu.
Možda je radikalno, ali me briga ako se tako shvati. Jedino rješenje je prinudna izolacija, naredba i kazna. Nema tu filozofiranja.
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Ajd cik pogodi?
USA naravno, preciznije nekadasnji Washington Post (sada FP group).
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/14...aly-china-aid/
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kao sto rekoh, psihologija mase koju upravo gledamo. evo vec i ovdje polako se ide ka tome da oni koji su trgovali prije 5 dana su pametni. lagano se mijenjaju stavovi pod pritiskom grupe.
pa je li hrvatski nulti pacijent pobjegao kada je ukapirao da ce se italija zatvori ili da ce hrvati zatvoriti granice.
ukoliko za 20 dana ne bude slucaja u CG vidjeces da ovo sto pricas je samo na papiru. da ce isti ovi koji sada pljuju po mom misljenju imati potpuno drugacije.
nismo mi daleko od italijana, a oni od danac itd.
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Iskreno zadovoljan sam dosadašnjim odlukama Vlade.
Ne bih voljeo da se išta prekine ili olabavi sve dok ne prođe realna opasnost...
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Ali vidiš da im je sav papir, "Strong" osušiš ga ne terasu i može da se koristi više puta
Ova slika ne ide u onu drugu temu jer se uopšte ne zajebavam što dijelim mišljenje ovog tipa.
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Da da , priča sa malu đecu i naivce kao što si ti.
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Jel ovo photoshop?
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