Formula 1!

[Biznismen Podgorica]

Pa to i ja kazem.Zbog cega se botas nije sklonio da ga kimi pretekne..Ovo stvarno nema smisla da botas ide idealno putanjom.

Nadam se da kimi nece vise ovo praviti jer mi je bas bilo zao botasa.
Slucaj zatvoren.

[Sandor Kolar]

Ne znam...Mislim da Botas nije dobro cuvao poziciju odje i da je Kimi vidio prostor. Dosao mu je na pola bolida...Ovo je Klasicni racing incident, nema greske, jer je prostor postojao i botas je bio gotov. Trebao je da se makne kad vec u startu nije zatvorio taj prostor. No eto, ko jebe mene.

[ToJeMojBrat]

Sorry guys, it's not vodka!

[ToJeMojBrat]

Kako Rusi krpe zaštitnu ogradu? Trakom!!!!!

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Vettel maestralno.

[NSX]

duct tape zakon

[Sandor Kolar]

Izgleda da ce sampionat biti zanimljiv jedino ako Vettel i Hamilton budu u istom timu.

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Rosberg je nasamarana prevara.

[ToJeMojBrat]

Ferrari misses an opportunity for a double podium

...In fact there was a clear opportunity for Ferrari not only to avoid that risky final overtake, but to guarantee Raikkonen a podium using Race Strategy early on. When the Safety Car was deployed on Lap 12, for the accident of Romain Grosjean, only four cars chose to pit. In race order these were Perez, Ricciardo, Sainz and Button.
At this stage Hamilton was leading Bottas, with Raikkonen five seconds behind in third, holding up his team mate Vettel. So why did Ferrari not split strategies at this point and pit one of its drivers, so it would be the leading car of those going to the finish on soft tyres?
F1 race strategists go into a Grand Prix with a number of scenarios in their plans. One of them is a schematic of what parts of the race would something like a Safety Car trigger a decision. In Sochi with soft tyres that could manage up to 40 laps, then a Safety Car around Lap 12-15 was a clear trigger for a decision. It was surprising that only four drivers took the opportunity.
Ferrari had two cars in the lead pack, whereas Mercedes and Williams had only one each. Raikkonen was holding up Vettel so it made sense to pit the Finn under the Safety Car, allowing Vettel to close up to Bottas.
Meanwhile Raikkonen would have become the leading car on soft tyres going to the finish, ahead of Perez and Ricciardo, as it turned out. By stopping at Safety Car speeds on Lap 12 he would expect to lose positions to Perez, Kvyat, Nasr and Ricciardo. But as Perez and Ricciardo stopped anyway, in fact only Kvyat and Nasr would have been ahead.
Raikkonen would have been able to pass both relatively easily on new tyres and then he would have been back to fourth position with his teammate up the road in third, but still to make a stop.
After the restart the leading cars went for another nine laps before stopping. Bottas would have slotted back in behind Raikkonen had Ferrari made that early stop and the older Finn would have been ahead to the finish, scoring a podium in third.
If, however there had been a Virtual Safety Car or Safety Car between laps 21 and 25 then Raikkonen would have won the race, as Mercedes, Ferrari and Williams would have had no choice but to pit and Raikkonen would have been ahead by around 10 seconds. With only one car each, Mercedes and Williams would not have been able to cover him.
It sounds far fetched (and of course there was no additional VSC or Safety Car) but it happens in F1 and it’s one of the scenarios that strategy teams work out in advance.
Ferrari has been very good at strategy this season, very aggressive and has made some effective decisions. It was strange that they missed this obvious opportunity...

Za @Fabiu:

Alonso doubts he will race beyond 2017

Indeed, just ahead of Sunday’s race, Formula One Management published an on-screen message marking Alonso’s 250th race and reminding him that he has “only 50 to go”.
But Alonso told Spanish television TV3: “I don’t think I will get to 300 grands prix.”

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Sere. Kao i uvijek. Za mjesec dana ocekujem intervju - im going to race more than 300 races.

[NSX]

Rosberg je nasamarana prevara.

pa sve 3 god. brži od MSC aoo

[Fabia_Elegance!]

seres

[ToJeMojBrat]

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/1...d-at-mercedes/

Nije mu taj comeback po meni ništa trebao, drugačiji bolidi od njegovog vremena, drugačije gume, nije bilo svakodnevnog testiranja kao što je imao u Ferariju...

[ToJeMojBrat]

[ToJeMojBrat]

Ferrari is likely to run a development engine at the upcoming American Grand Prix and may use Kimi Raikkonen to test the new designs for its 2016 Formula 1 power unit, although that would give the Finnish driver a grid penalty.
The Italian team, which has used all of its four allocated power units for 2015, has made a significant number of changes to its 2016 power plant designs using its remaining engine tokens.
As Sebastian Vettel still has an outside shot at winning the world title this season and would not want a grid penalty harming his chances in Austin, the Scuderia could decide to give the development engine to Raikkonen, as the Finn is already out of the championship race.

[Fabia_Elegance!]

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/1...d-at-mercedes/

Nije mu taj comeback po meni ništa trebao, drugačiji bolidi od njegovog vremena, drugačije gume, nije bilo svakodnevnog testiranja kao što je imao u Ferariju...

Nije se ON vratio zbog tebe i tvojih istomisljenika.

[ToJeMojBrat]

How does Mercedes' dominance of F1 compare to previous eras?

...
MERCEDES IN 2014/15 (so far):
Wins: 28 from 34 - 82%
Poles: 32 from 34 - 94%
Laps led: 1668 of 2030 - 82%

McLAREN-HONDA 1988/89



McLaren set the benchmark for F1 dominance when the Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost partnership won 15 grands prix out of 16 in 1988, but it faced greater opposition from Ferrari and Williams the following year.

Wins: 25 from 32 - 78%
Poles: 30 from 32 - 94%
Laps led: 1748 from 2070 - 84%

There's an argument for extending the 'McLaren era' to 1991, given that its string of constructors' titles lasted until then while Senna also claimed his second and third drivers' crowns.
But by 1990 Prost had joined Nigel Mansell at an ever stronger Ferrari, while Williams was in the ascendance the following year.
McLaren stats for full 1988-91 period:
Wins: 39 from 64 - 61%
Poles: 52 from 64 - 81%
Laps led: 2878 from 4102 - 70%

WILLIAMS-RENAULT 1992/93



As McLaren and Honda faded, Williams took a stranglehold on F1 with the help of Renault engines, rising aerodynamic star Adrian Newey and by mastering technologies such as active suspension and traction control better than rivals. Nigel Mansell and Alain Prost took a championship apiece, but Senna and McLaren's efforts limited Williams's overall win rate.

Wins: 20 from 32 - 62.5%
Poles: 30 from 32 - 94%
Laps led: 1540 from 2081 - 74%

Though Williams remained one of F1's main forces to the end of 1997 (and claimed further titles with Damon Hill and Jacques Villeneuve), Michael Schumacher, rule changes and Senna's death meant its absolute dominance lasted only two seasons.

FERRARI 2000-04



Michael Schumacher led Ferrari to a half-decade of dominance at the turn of the century, ending the Scuderia's title drought in emphatic style with a string of drivers' and constructors' crowns.
With Ferrari unbeaten in the title races throughout those five years, it's fair to take its stats from the entire period:

Wins: 57 from 75 - 76%
Poles: 51 from 75 - 68%
Laps led: 1168 from 2140 - 55%

But as McLaren was still a strong threat in 2000/01 and the Williams-BMWs of Juan Pablo Montoya and Ralf Schumacher had a title shot in 2003, Ferrari could argue Mercedes should be aiming for its benchmarks from its most commanding campaigns in 2002 and '04, when its win rate was 85 per cent.
The relatively low pole rate is skewed by the fact qualifying took place with race fuel-loads from 2003 onwards, allowing several underdogs running lighter to upstage the Ferraris on Saturdays. However, even before then McLaren (in 2000) and Williams (in '02) had often shown better single-lap pace but failed to translate it to wins.

SHOULD ROSBERG HAVE GIVEN RED BULL SOME CREDIT?


....
But despite the impression of dominance at the time, the Vettel/Red Bull combination was not as untouchable as those above.
Red Bull's 2010-13 win rate was 'only' 54 per cent, or 66 per cent if its most dominant two seasons - 2011 and '13 - are considered in isolation.
Its pole rates were 68 per cent for the whole period or 86 per cent for 2011 and '13 only, and it led 51 per cent of all laps from 2010-13.

[ToJeMojBrat]

Nije se ON vratio zbog tebe i tvojih istomisljenika.

Naravno da nije, (nije ni zbog tebe ili si ga možda lično ubijedio :-) ) ja sam rekao svoje mišljenje, radiji bih bio da je ostao veliki šampion umjesto toga što je jedan, u najboljem slučaju, prosječan vozač kao Rozberg bio bolji od njega u 3 povratne sezone u Mercdesu. Statistika iz te 3 godine je neumoljiva, koliko god ga ti ovdje glorifikovao.

On jeste najbolji vozač GOAT, rezultati i statistika to potvrđuju i imao je spektakularnih trka, pogotovo u Ferariju. Imao je i manje spektakularnih momenata ali ne bih o njima... Lično mislim da je imao sreće što mu Sena nije duže bio konkurencija, mislim da nikako ne bi uzeo svoje prve 2 titule u Benetonu a možda ni par prvih titula u Ferariju. Znam da "bogohulim" protiv NAJBOLJEG kako ga od milošte zoveš, ali da je Sena poživio duže, pitanje je ko bi bio najbolji...

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Naravno da nije, (nije ni zbog tebe ili si ga možda lično ubijedio :-) ) ja sam rekao svoje mišljenje, radiji bih bio da je ostao veliki šampion umjesto toga što je jedan, u najboljem slučaju, prosječan vozač kao Rozberg bio bolji od njega u 3 povratne sezone u Mercdesu. Statistika iz te 3 godine je neumoljiva, koliko god ga ti ovdje glorifikovao.

Budi realan.

Prvo:
Qualifying
Faster qualifying time: Rosberg 41 / Schumacher 17
Poles: Rosberg 1 / Schumacher 
0
Front rows: Rosberg 2 / Schumacher 1

GAZDA je imao pole u Monaco 2012, one handed.


Dalje, DNFs: Rosberg 7 / Schumacher 15...
Tako da sto se tice ovoga, prijatno i dovidjenja.

On jeste najbolji vozač GOAT, rezultati i statistika to potvrđuju i imao je spektakularnih trka, pogotovo u Ferariju. Imao je i manje spektakularnih momenata ali ne bih o njima... Lično mislim da je imao sreće što mu Sena nije duže bio konkurencija, mislim da nikako ne bi uzeo svoje prve 2 titule u Benetonu a možda ni par prvih titula u Ferariju. Znam da "bogohulim" protiv NAJBOLJEG kako ga od milošte zoveš, ali da je Sena poživio duže, pitanje je ko bi bio najbolji...

Senna je bio trostruki svjetski prvak kada ga je tada mladi i neiskusni GAZDA nasamarao. 1992 je imao vise bodova ukupno.
1994-e godine ga je dobio u prve dvije trke, znaci 2-0. Dobio bi ga u Imoli samo tako. Ni te godine ne bi imao sanse protiv njega.

[ToJeMojBrat]

Budi realan.

Prvo:
Qualifying
Faster qualifying time: Rosberg 41 / Schumacher 17
Poles: Rosberg 1 / Schumacher 
0
Front rows: Rosberg 2 / Schumacher 1

GAZDA je imao pole u Monaco 2012, one handed.


Dalje, DNFs: Rosberg 7 / Schumacher 15...
Tako da sto se tice ovoga, prijatno i dovidjenja.

I jesam realan. Za 3 godine u Mercedesu Šumi je imao više pehova i mehaničkih kvarova od Rozberga. Šta mi to govori? Da se nije prilagodio bolidu upravo zbog onoga što sam i pomenuo, drugačiji bolidi, drugačije gume, bio je šampion sa radnom etikom svakodnevnog testiranja u Ferariju sa neograničenim sredstvima...

Budi ti malo realan i umjesto navijačkog pristupa, pogledaj cjelokupnu statistiku, to je poenta linkovanog članka.

Qualifying
Faster qualifying time: Rosberg 41 / Schumacher 17
Poles: Rosberg 1 / Schumacher 
0
Front rows: Rosberg 2 / Schumacher 1

Races
Wins: Rosberg 1 / Schumacher 0
Podiums: Rosberg 5 / Schumacher 1
Points finishes: Rosberg 39 / Schumacher 31
DNFs: Rosberg 7 / Schumacher 15
Best race result (inc DNFs): Rosberg 35 / Schumacher 22
Ahead in two-car finish: Rosberg 22 / Schumacher 15

Championship
Overall points: Rosberg 324 / Schumacher 197
Seasons finished higher in standings: Rosberg 3 / Schumacher 0
Highest championship placing: Rosberg 7th (2010, 2011) / Schumacher 8th (2011)

Senna je bio trostruki svjetski prvak kada ga je tada mladi i neiskusni GAZDA nasamarao. 1992 je imao vise bodova ukupno.
1994-e godine ga je dobio u prve dvije trke, znaci 2-0. Dobio bi ga u Imoli samo tako. Ni te godine ne bi imao sanse protiv njega.

Znam da mi priča vuče na onu "šta bi bilo kad bi bilo" ali Sena je te godine loše startovao, Imola je trebala da bude prekretnica, Sena je bio prvi na polu koliko se sjećam, tako da izjava tipa dobio bi ga u Imoli je samo pretpostavka (kao što ja pretpostavljam da bi Sena bio bolji od njega, te i iduće sezone i još koje posle toga...). "Našamarao svjetskog šampiona" i imao više bodova od njega? Ovo me podsjeti na Rozberga i Šumija u Mercedesu, čudno kako se statistika gleda u jednom slučaju "realno" a u drugom "nerealno"! :-)

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Nerealno je kada je GAZDA imao duplo vise DNF-a, 1992/1993 nisu imali toliko.

Prekretnica kazes? Pa vidjeli smo njegove greske te godine, vidjeli smo kako je pukao pod pritiskom. I kazes da bi dobio Imolu? Bi moj *****. A nema sanse da bi on vozio do kraja bez nekog sranja.
I da, nasamarao ga. Klinac u F1 nasamarao trostrukog sampiona u najboljim godinama.
Kada se GAZDA vratio u Mercedes, imao je 41 godinu i katastrofalan bolid.
Ne mozes uporedit babe i zabe. GAZDU protiv Senne gledam kao Hamiltona protiv Lojzeka 2007-e u McLarenu. Klinac nasamarao 2-strukog svjetskog, slucajnog sampiona.

[ToJeMojBrat]

41 godinu i katastrofalan bolid? Zvuči skoro kao izgovor za NAJBOLJEG. Pa priču sam i počeo time da, po meni, nije trebao da se vraća i da to što ga je prosječni vozač prešišao sve 3 godine po povratku samo predstavlja minus u njegovoj karijeri.
Jedina poštena komparacija Sene i Šumija bi bila da su bili u istoj ekipi i istom bolidu (kao što si pomenuo Hamiltona i Alonsa) i kao što su Šumi i Rozberg bili u istom, lošem, bolidu, u kojem je Nico bio bolji od Dekice. To je sve.

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Po tebi to je sve jer nisi realan.
Sad pazi, Britni je nasamaran od strane Luje, ponizen i sjeban. A pogledaj Monzu, GAZDA se igra sa istim tim Lujom, koji je tada vozio McLarena koji je bio masu brzi od Mercedesa. GAZDA je blistao kada je bolid radio bez greske. Pazi npr. Montral 2012, ili Silverstone 2012...kada je nasamarao Luju kao picku.

[ToJeMojBrat]

Ok Fabia, neka bude da ja nisam realan. Ti ovdje pominjes pojedinačne trke u kojima je Šumi bio bolji od Hamiltona a Hamilton je bolji od Nica => Šumi je u mercu bolji od Nica. Jasno kao dan, statistika je nebitna kad ne ide u prilog Gazdi.

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Pa rekao sam, sa bolidom koji je imao 12 puta DNF...ja ne znam kako neko moze da ima vise bodova od kolege koji je imao samo 2 DNF.