In Flight!

[Lackie]

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Lijepo je vidjeti nas avion van CG, ali takodje lijepo bi bilo kada bi pilot stalno aktivirao rudu i ejlerone dok taksira po pisti.


Inace jednom sam letio sa ovim, ima GE motore, bruka su bucni i prave masu vibracija.

[E_K_V]

The plane's second flight recorder has been found but is badly damaged,according to the New York Times. It spoke to a senior French official who said that workers on the scene had found the casing of the data recorder, but the memory chip inside had been dislodged and was missing.
It also reports investigators have so far been unable to retrieve any information from the the cockpit voice recorder - recovered by a helicopter team on Tuesday.

[Fabia_Elegance!]

U ovom slucaju i VCR bi bio od koristi, i to masu.

Znas li sto je meni nejasno, ovaj A320 je imao SSCVR 2100, koji ima i FDR i CVR. Znaci all in one.

I, Airbus stalno salje podatke u Toulouse. Uz to, naprijed ima el. memoriju koja se nalazi ispod kokpita i tu se snima sveeeee...

[Fabia_Elegance!]

To je to:

[NSX]

the memory chip inside had been dislodged and was missing

ovo mi je nemoguće jer ta kutija je dizajnirana do 3500G

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Neka forica, a?

[Lackie]

Lijepo je vidjeti nas avion van CG, ali takodje lijepo bi bilo kada bi pilot stalno aktivirao rudu i ejlerone dok taksira po pisti.


Inace jednom sam letio sa ovim, ima GE motore, bruka su bucni i prave masu vibracija.

I ja sam prošle godine. Predivan mi je naš Embraer. Šta su GE motori?

[starwalker]

Lufthansa accidents and incidents

• On January 11, 1959, Lufthansa Flight 502, a Lufthansa Lockheed Super Constellation (registered D-ALAK) crashed onto a beach shortly off Galeão Airport in Rio de Janeiro following a scheduled passenger flight from Hamburg, Germany. Of the 29 passengers and 10 crew members on board, only the co-pilot and 2 flight attendants survived. Investigation into the accident resulted in blaming the pilots for having executed a too low approach, which may have been caused by fatigue.^[79]

• On December 4, 1961, a Lufthansa Boeing 720 (registered D-ABOK) crashed of unknown causes near Mainz during a training flight from Frankfurt to Cologne, killing the three occupants. It was the first crash involving an aircraft of that type.^[80]

• On July 15, 1964, another Boeing 720 (registered D-ABOP) crashed during a training flight, with the three people on board losing their lives (in what was only the second crash for this aircraft type). The accident occurred near Ansbach after the pilots had lost control of the aircraft when executing an aileron roll.

• On January 28, 1966 at 17:50 local time, Lufthansa Flight 5 from Frankfurt to Bremen, which was operated using a Convair CV-440 Metropolitan registered D-ACAT, crashed 0.5 kilometres (0.31 mi) short of Bremen Airport, killing all 42 passengers and 4 crew members on board. The pilots had tried to execute a go-around when approaching the airport, during which the aircraft stalled and went out of control, possibly due to pilot error.^[81]

• On November 20, 1974 at 07:54 local time, Lufthansa Flight 540, a Boeing 747–100 (registered D-ABYB), crashed shortly after take-off at Jomo Kenyatta International Airport in what was the first air accident involving a Boeing 747. 55 out of the 140 passengers and 4 out of the 17 crew lost their lives, making it the worst accident in the history of the airline.^[83]

• On July 26, 1979 at 21:32 UTC, a cargo-configured Boeing 707 (registered D-ABUY) that was en route Lufthansa Flight 527 from Rio de Janeiro to Dakar and onwards to Germany (at that time cargo flights were operated in-house, the German Cargo subsidiary had not been founded yet) crashed into a mountain 25 kilometres (16 mi) from Galeão Airport during initial climb, killing the three crew members on board. A flawed communication between the pilots and the air traffic controller had resulted in the aircraft flying on a wrong path.^[84]

• On September 14, 1993, Lufthansa Flight 2904, an Airbus A320-200 (registered D-AIPN) flying from Frankfurt to Warsaw with 64 passengers and 4 crew members on board, overran the runway upon landing at Warsaw-Okecie Airport, and crashed into an earth embankment, resulting in the death of the co-pilot and one passenger.^[85][86]
  
• On 24 March 2015, at 10:47 CET a 24-year-old Airbus A320-211 with registration D-AIPX en route from Barcelona to Düsseldorf (4U9525) operated by Lufthansa subsidiary Germanwings crashed in the south of France near Digne-les-Bains. The flight was carrying a total of 144 passengers, two pilots, and four cabin crew.[31]

[starwalker]

Viele offene Fragen - und eine Theorie

[E_K_V]

aj prevedi ovaj njemacki

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Njima je safety record stvarno savrsen.

[E_K_V]

(CNN)Audio from the mangled voice recorder of Germanwings Flight 9525 reveals a bizarre struggle on board: One of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit and was trying to get inside when the plane crashed, according to media reports.
"You can hear he is trying to smash the door down," a senior military official involved in the investigation told The New York Times.
"We don't know yet the reason why one of the guys went out. But what is sure is that at the very end of the flight, the other pilot is alone and does not open the door."

[wulfy]

A320 i sa ovim padom ostaje najsigurniji mlazni avion na svjetu sa prosjekom od 14 padova na milion uzletanja. Konkretno, od 1988 do 2015 godine kupcima su isporučena 6.452 aviona. U tom periodu zabelježeno je 23 pada i 1.092 poginula. No, vazdušni saobraćaj nije poput drumskog, koji svoj krvavi danak naplaćuje u ratama, već naplati odjednom.

Koliko čuh juče na ,,Al Jazeera'' u Njemačkoj se špekuliše da je pukao prozor na pilotskoj kabini i dekompresija onemugućila pilote da upravljaju. To potkrepljuju činjenicom da je A320 imao oko 50 slučajeva sa pucanjem prozora u pilotskoj kabini.

[Oliver Nedeljkovic]

Koliko čuh juče na ,,Al Jazeera'' u Njemačkoj se špekuliše da je pukao prozor na pilotskoj kabini i dekompresija onemugućila pilote da upravljaju. To potkrepljuju činjenicom da je A320 imao oko 50 slučajeva sa pucanjem prozora u pilotskoj kabini.

Moguce,da li je ovo dokaz toj teoriji

http://www.jutarnji.hr/zasto-je-zapr...ata--/1320339/

[Vidocq]

Da je pukao prozor nije mogao da dovede do automatskog gubitka pritiska nikako, niti da onesposobi oba pilota odjednom. Avion bi bio upravljiv.

Ocigledno je da opet imamo slucaj samoubistva i ubistva od strane pilota ili kopilota.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...new-york-times

[Fabia_Elegance!]

I ja mislim da je samoubijstvo u pitanju. Nije prvi put.

[E_K_V]

• 7:55 a.m.: The co-pilot of the doomed Germanwings flight "accelerated the descent" of the plane when he was alone in the cockpit, Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin said Thursday. That can only be done deliberately, he said.
• 7:55 a.m: The co-pilot was alive until impact, Robin said, citing the sound of steady breathing in the cockpit.
• 7:55 a.m: There was a "deliberate attempt to destroy the aircraft," Robin said.

[NSX]

većina kompanija ima pravilo da kad jedan pilot izađe iz kabine mora stjuardesa da bude sa drugim pilotom baš zbog ovakvih situacija, ne znam zašto to nije obavezno za sve

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Bas me cudi taj dojčer. Mozda je bio u dugovima ili je imao dobar life inssurance.

[E_K_V]

srusiti avion sa 150 ljudi moze samo biti ili teroristicki cin...ili cin neke psihicki bolesne osobe.... kolik osam vidio, kopilot je radio za germanwings manje od godinu dana?

[E_K_V]

e sad zamislie scenu i tih zadnjih 10tak minuta leta ljudi koji su bili u avionu... dje gledas pilota ili osoblje aviona koje pokusava da provali u kokpit, a avion je konstanto blizi zemlji.... katastrofa...

[NSX]

life insurance mu neće isplatit ništa (tj. porodici) ako je u pitanju samoubistvo, u 99% slučajeva im je takav policy

[Fabia_Elegance!]

Cudi me sto nije iskljucio CVR. Nista se ne bi znalo.

Garant je bio povezan sa nekom od teroristickih grupa. Ovo je valjda novi nacin srusenja aviona.

Podle ovoga avio kompanije moraju pratit privatni zivot pilota.

[E_K_V]

blokirao stolicom vrata??? dje je mogao da je nadje???


Kopilot Germanwingsova zrakoplova, koji se u utorak srušio u Francuskoj, kriv je za tu strašnu nesreću. On je preuzeo kontrolu nad avionom i namjerno započeo spuštanje koje je završilo udarom u Alpe i smrću 150 putnika i članova posade.
Tu su informaciju objavili francuski istražitelji analizirajući podatke iz crne kutije koja se nalazila u pilotskoj kabini. Oni tvrde da je 28-godišnji kopilot Andreas Günter Lubitz želio uništiti zrakoplov, javlja BBC News.
- Nakon što je glavni pilot napustio kabinu, Andreas se unutra zaključao i uključio sustav za slijetanje. Namjera mu je bila uništiti avion. Na snimci iz kokpita cijelo se vrijeme, sve do pada, čuje disanje kopilota - rekao je francuski tužitelj Brice Robin.

Teorija o mehaničkom kvaru kao uzroku pada Germanwinsgova Airbusa u francuske tako je u potpunosti odbačena.
Piloti se svađali tijekom leta?

Kako piše Mirror, piloti su se uoči pada posvađali. Jedan od njih je napustio kabinu, a drugi se u njoj potom zaključao. Snimke navodno otkrivaju i da su se vrata kabine u jednom trenutku otvorila, ali je kopilot iz kokpita ulaz blokirao sjedalom. Piloti su vikali jedno na drugo, a potom je glavni pilot, koji je bio vani, pokušao razvaliti vrata pilotske kabine.
- Nikakvih razgovora potom nije bilo, a a ubrzo se začuo zvuk pada aviona - rekao je istražitelj.
Kopilot Airbusa koji se u utorak prijepodne srušio u francuskim Alpama u Germanwingsu radi od 2013. godine, a iza sebe ima 630 sati leta. Glavni pilot u Lufthansi je zaposlen već 10 godina, a ima više od 6000 sati leta.
Uz francuske istražitelje, u razrješenju ovog misterija pomažu i stručnjaci iz Interpola.