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    rijetko mrzan vozac taj Montoya

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    Quote Originally Posted by E_K_V View Post
    citas a ne mozes da vjerujes
    Citam onda bacim pogled na monitor da vidim tvoje linkove ali ne i da kliknem...



    A Montazer je mrzan skroz, sjecam se samo kad je napustio pressicu, pa ono sa kamermanom...
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    Quote Originally Posted by M.S. View Post

    Jeste, to je taj momenat.

    Od tada samo lupa gluposti, sjecam se kada se probudio iz kome odmah je izjavio da je siguran da bi Madjarska 2009 bila njegova (a tada je Ferkan bio 2 sec sporiji od Brawna).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance! View Post
    Montazer. Ima ponudu od Renola i sve.

    to bi bila prava stvar, ali:


    What might have been?





    After it sounded like Andretti Autosport had gained ground on trying to bring 1999 CART Champion and 2000 Indianapolis 500 winner Juan Pablo Montoya to IndyCar, RACER has confirmed that Montoya has declined the offer.
    Where Montoya ends up next season is yet to be determined. He has also been linked to a potential United Sports Car Racing ride, and according to NBC Motorsports Talk’s Chris Estrada he has been in talks with Furniture Row Racing to replace the departing Kurt Busch.
    The chances of Montoya landing back in IndyCar are slim at this point. Chip Ganassi’s 3 car team in IndyCar has been rumored to expand to 4 cars, so unless Ganassi wants to put Montoya back in IndyCar himself, it looks as if it may not happen.
    During his two year tenure in CART, Montoya was nothing shy of spectacular. Inheriting the car that Alex Zanardi won the 2 previous championships and being paired with the 1996 champion Jimmy Vasser, he was naturally expected to do well. He amassed 10 wins in 40 starts, (that’s a 25% winning percentage) led 1774 laps and won 14 poles. Winning the championship as a rookie during that time was no easy feat, the cars were challenging to drive, the series had a myriad of tracks from superspeedways, short ovals and road and street circuits. His win in the 2000 Indy 500 was needless to say dominating, leading 167 laps.
    He had an aggressive driving style and wanted to lead every lap all the while making it stick.


    In F1, Montoya was one of a few drivers (until Fernando Alonso) that could challenge Michael Schumacher during his prime.


    During his return to America to run NASCAR, he has won the 24 Hours of Daytona 3 times.
    His stock car career has been lackluster compared to his open wheel career. He has only won 2 races, both on road courses at Sonoma Raceway and Watkins Glen. His performance on the ovals has not been horrible by any means and he has performed well and had it not been for ill timed cautions or speeding on pit road, he had a few races won. He made the Chase in 2009 and started out very well, but he faded late in the Chase and finished 8th in the final standings. Other than that, he and his team have struggled and have ran mostly mid pack. However, of all of the open wheel drivers that have crossed over to NASCAR in recent years, Montoya has gotten a hold of stock cars better than Dario Franchitti, A.J. Allmendinger, Danica Patrick and (at first) Sam Hornish, Jr.
    Stock cars aside, it would be interesting to see what JPM could do in an IndyCar. With IndyCar racing being more competitive like the days of CART when Montoya originally ran, he would have a similar playing field. The bigger idea is that is open wheel racing been Montoya’s calling all along. His stats in open wheel racing speak for itself- he is one of the very best out there.
    Much like A.J. Allmendinger, while he didn’t win a championship in Champ Car, he was a rocket with a good team in Forsythe and when he jumped in Roger Penske’s car at the Indianapolis 500 and had it not been for his belts coming loose he would have had something at the end of the race. His NASCAR career however, didn’t get off to a good start and has not been too spectacular.
    When it comes down to money, it makes more sense for him to stay in NASCAR. The sad truth is that he can find a full time ride and still earn a better wage than most of the IndyCar crowd.
    There is no shortage of talent in the IZOD IndyCar Series, and he would have been a nice addition and as Target Chip Ganassi Racing’s Mike Hull told Autosport:
    “Quite frankly there is no reason to have people like Juan driving in this series if we can’t improve the brand of the series through having him here. I think we’re missing opportunities with several of the drivers who are in the series now.”

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    Ovo sto je massa izjavio...kakvo je ovo ljubljenje dupeta....

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    Massa je izjavio da u zadnjih 7 trka vise nece pomagat Alonsu. Malo je kasno za kurazenje, imao je 8 sezona da pokaze da nije samo vodonosa i covjek za pravljenje zavjetrina.
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    moze sad da se ***** kad ga je popusio za ugovor...
    boga mi kao da je alonsu bio da sad od neke velike pomoci.

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    Nije???
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    a i ne vala.
    ako ces se pozvati na zadnju trku - nemoj!
    alonso bi ga svakako obisao.
    pogledaj bodove ferarija i koliko ih je ko osvoji ove sezone, a i predhodne...a i one tamo.
    na kraju krajeve, da su zadovoljni kako pomaze i timu i alonsu produzili bi mu ugovor.
    da se razumijemo, mene je masa mio lik i vozac al definitivno ne zasluzuje vise mjesto u timu.

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    Cekaj, Massa i faster than you, onda zavjetrine, onda nemoj mu vozit blizu...? Koliko puta je otvorio vrata kao da je Bog iza njega?

    Onda ono testiranje djelova prosle godine...
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    dobro, kad je bilo "faster than you", je bilo obratno i to priznajem i ovo da mu ne vozi blizu je bilo u istu trku tako da se to ne racuna.
    zavjetrinu su pokusali da odrade sad u zadnju trku i ni to im cak nije uspjelo kako su planirali.
    nebitno je vise.
    da je alonso imao boljeg drugog vozaca (kao sto vetel ima, recimo) koji bi prosle sezone, ili one tamo odkinuo vetelu makar bod, da ne pricamo o vise bodova, alonso bi imao jos neku titulu na svom kontu. ovako je masa uvjek bio daleko iza i od nikakve pomoci alonsu i to su cinjenice!

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    Prvo, zavjetrinu su odradili ove i prosle godine.
    Sto si skipovao ono testiranje djelova tokom prosle sezone?

    Da je Lojzica imao boljeg kolegu, imao bi manje bodova, imao bi 2010e, 2011e, 2012e i ove tako da šanse za osvajanje naslova bi bile jos manje.
    Da je Lojzica ima tvrdoglavog kolegu koji mu ne bi otvorio vrata, koji ne bi vozio inferioran bolid u odnosu na njega, koji ne bi testirao djelove u toku sezone Lojzica bi bio jos dalje od naslova.

    Vi što mi pričate da je Lojzica najkompletniji vozač, imam pitanje, gledate li vi kvale?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickname View Post
    a i ne vala.
    ako ces se pozvati na zadnju trku - nemoj!
    alonso bi ga svakako obisao.
    pogledaj bodove ferarija i koliko ih je ko osvoji ove sezone, a i predhodne...a i one tamo.
    na kraju krajeve, da su zadovoljni kako pomaze i timu i alonsu produzili bi mu ugovor.
    da se razumijemo, mene je masa mio lik i vozac al definitivno ne zasluzuje vise mjesto u timu.
    Pa 8 godina je u Ferrariju drugi vozac i tu ulogu obavlja savrseno.
    Ovog puta mu nisu produzili ugovor ja mislim iz dva razloga. Sledece godine ce bolid biti radikalno izmjenjen i treba im neko ko u par krugova zna reci sto ne valja sa bolidom a za Raikkonena kazu da to radi odlicno. Sam Allison ga je trazio.
    Drugi razlog je sto su Alonsu dali preveliku ulogu a ovaj to u zadnje vrijeme iskoristava i kritikuje ih. To se sigurno ne svidja nijednom poslodavcu a ne timu sa takvom istorijom. Industrijski gigant koji je stvorio ime, brend, ne smije dopustit nekom tamo vozaca da se sa time sprda. Kimijeva uloga ce biti i da umiri Alonsa i da ga nacera da se trka i tacka.
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    @sky da je savrsen kao drugi vozac, nikad ga ne bi mijenjali.
    @fabia
    ne znam kako to mislis da bi alonso osvojio manje bodova da je imao boljeg kolegu u timu u kom su jasno definisane uloge prvog i drugog vozaca. da je imao boljeg kolegu, konkurencija bi osvojila manje bodova a ako bi negdje, spletom nekih okolnosti, masa bio bolji u trci od alonsa kompezovao bi to na nekoj sledecoj trci gdje bi bio ispred nekog od konkurenata za sampionsku titulu. medjutim, to se gotovo nikad nije dogodilo. to sto je testirao djelove za ovoga mu je u opisu posla, i ne znam sta tu ima za diskutovati. sto se zavjetrina tice, dva put u dvije godine i nije neka pomoc a pri tom ni to nije dalo neke rezultate.
    poenta price oko masinog ugovora je ta da momak vise ne zasluzuje mjesto u ekipi kao sto je ferari. posle 8 godina provedenih u timu, sigurno je imao mnogo kredita kod ferarija.
    po mom misljenju zasluzivao je da bude zamijenjen i prosle godine al su mu dali jos jednu sansu, koju nije iskoristio...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance! View Post
    Prvo, zavjetrinu su odradili ove i prosle godine.
    Sto si skipovao ono testiranje djelova tokom prosle sezone?

    Da je Lojzica imao boljeg kolegu, imao bi manje bodova, imao bi 2010e, 2011e, 2012e i ove tako da šanse za osvajanje naslova bi bile jos manje.
    Da je Lojzica ima tvrdoglavog kolegu koji mu ne bi otvorio vrata, koji ne bi vozio inferioran bolid u odnosu na njega, koji ne bi testirao djelove u toku sezone Lojzica bi bio jos dalje od naslova.

    Vi što mi pričate da je Lojzica najkompletniji vozač, imam pitanje, gledate li vi kvale?
    sta sa kvalama?
    She is only here to annoy herself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickname View Post
    @sky da je savrsen kao drugi vozac, nikad ga ne bi mijenjali.
    Pa iz razloga koje sam prije napisao mislim da Ferrariju sad ne treba drugi vozac nego jos jedan prvi.

    Massa kad je bio u prilici je bio savrsen drugi vozac. Tacno je isto da je cesto bio toliko nazad da je od njega bilo malo vajde.
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    Pa oni su uzeli dva sampiona ne bi li povratili titulu kontruktora

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickname View Post
    @sky da je savrsen kao drugi vozac, nikad ga ne bi mijenjali.
    @fabia
    ne znam kako to mislis da bi alonso osvojio manje bodova da je imao boljeg kolegu u timu u kom su jasno definisane uloge prvog i drugog vozaca. da je imao boljeg kolegu, konkurencija bi osvojila manje bodova a ako bi negdje, spletom nekih okolnosti, masa bio bolji u trci od alonsa kompezovao bi to na nekoj sledecoj trci gdje bi bio ispred nekog od konkurenata za sampionsku titulu. medjutim, to se gotovo nikad nije dogodilo. to sto je testirao djelove za ovoga mu je u opisu posla, i ne znam sta tu ima za diskutovati. sto se zavjetrina tice, dva put u dvije godine i nije neka pomoc a pri tom ni to nije dalo neke rezultate.
    poenta price oko masinog ugovora je ta da momak vise ne zasluzuje mjesto u ekipi kao sto je ferari. posle 8 godina provedenih u timu, sigurno je imao mnogo kredita kod ferarija.
    po mom misljenju zasluzivao je da bude zamijenjen i prosle godine al su mu dali jos jednu sansu, koju nije iskoristio...
    Kenjas kvake. Da je Massa bio bolji, on bi zaradio vise bodova jel? Ponekad bi bio bolji od Lojzeka, a to znaci da bi Lojzek imao manje a Massa vise bodova.
    I da je Massa bio bolji nego sto jeste, a opet uvijek iza Lojzeka, glavni konkurent, Vettel, bi imao isto bodova.
    Sto se tice testiranja djelova, on je to radio u toku sezone. Umjesto da ide i da se bori za bodove, on je trke zavrsio sa Lotusima i Marusijama...i tako je testirao djelove i set up bolida koji su posle bili korisni za Lojzu jer svi znamo kakav je bio Ferkan u pocetku sezone a kakav je bio pred kraj.
    Zavjetrine...dvije u dvije godine, zato sto u 2 godine su vozene 2 trke gdje ta zavjetrina dolazi do izrazaja i gdje moze da bude od pomoci. E sad, sto su fejlovali ove godine, to je njihov problem. Mada, nisu fejlovali, jer Lojzek se zahvalio Massi na 0.1 sec.
    Iskoristio je on sansu, on je radio to sto je smio. Nije smio da radi vise. Sada vide da ni to ne ide, jer nikad nece dobiti sampionat.



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    sta sa kvalama?

    Pa u kvalama je nikakav.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance! View Post
    Prvo, zavjetrinu su odradili ove i prosle godine.
    Sto si skipovao ono testiranje djelova tokom prosle sezone?

    Da je Lojzica imao boljeg kolegu, imao bi manje bodova, imao bi 2010e, 2011e, 2012e i ove tako da šanse za osvajanje naslova bi bile jos manje.
    Da je Lojzica ima tvrdoglavog kolegu koji mu ne bi otvorio vrata, koji ne bi vozio inferioran bolid u odnosu na njega, koji ne bi testirao djelove u toku sezone Lojzica bi bio jos dalje od naslova.

    Vi što mi pričate da je Lojzica najkompletniji vozač, imam pitanje, gledate li vi kvale?
    Fabija ja sam do sad mislio da se ti zajebavas,ali sad vidim da stvarno nisi normalan
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    Pozdravlja te novi inzinjer Ferkana:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance! View Post
    Pa u kvalama je nikakav.
    kako nikakav?
    She is only here to annoy herself!

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