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Fry blames Ferrari methods
Technical chief hints that fundamental problems remain
Ferrari technical director Pat Fry has hinted that their problems run far deeper than those they are currently experiencing with the F2012 chassis.
Speaking at the Chinese Grand Prix on Friday, Fry suggested that the poor performance of the Scuderia's latest car came as a result of more fundamental issues back at their Maranello base.
He said that "methodologies" the Scuderia use during the design and development of their cars needed to be looked at.
The F2012 lacks downforce compared to its main rivals, although Fernando Alonso currently holds the lead in the Drivers' Championship thanks to his victory in the wet Malaysian Grand Prix two weeks ago.
Ferrari have already altered the design and positioning of the car's exhausts as they, like all F1's frontrunners, seek to minimise the loss in grip caused by the clampdown on blown diffusers.
More upgrades are planned ahead of next month's Spanish Grand Prix but the changes seem to be the tip of the iceberg as far as Fry is concerned.
Work on all fronts
"The exhaust is one of the more obvious changes that we've made, but that's quite a small part of the problem that we've got," said Fry, who joined the team from McLaren two years ago.
"I don't really want to go into where all the problems are - it's not just a case of us trying to build a quicker car, we need to fundamentally be changing the methodologies that we use to select, design and manufacture so that we are competitive long term.
"There's work on all fronts, not just work into what we're taking to Barcelona, there's also a huge amount of work in just trying to change the fundamentals of what we do so we can actually take a step forward and be competing with everyone else."
Fry was promoted last year as Ferrari sought to shake up their technical department in the wake of a similarly disappointing start to the 2011 season.
On that occasion, the aerodynamic problems they suffered were blamed on a disconnect between the car's performance in the wind tunnel and on track.
However, Fry suggested that little had changed at Ferrari in the intervening period.
"The biggest performance differentiator - as people mentioned earlier - is aerodynamics. We've got some issues there that we're trying to resolve," he added.
Accuracy
"The areas you need to be working on is everything from the way you run the wind tunnel, the accuracy of your wind tunnel, the simulation that you use to decide what components to take forward, so we're not leaving any stone unturned.
"We're actually trying to review and revise our methodologies through the whole process and that carries on into the design office for trying to get weight out of various parts, make other bits more durable, so there's work going on absolutely everywhere within the company, on the basic fundamental methodology as well as just trying to upgrade the car."
With Ferrari currently struggling to crack the top 10 during qualifying, Fry also said that he expected little change in their performance this weekend.
"I think our performance here is likely to mirror the first two races. We've got a few small upgrades on the car that should improve it a fair amount but then I think this track suits us less favourably than the last one really, so I expect the gaps are going to be similar. We have a lot of work to do to catch the others, particularly in qualifying," he added.
WTF man?
Nevjerovatno je koliko se prica po forumima o Ferrariju i njihovim problemima. Zalosnjaci su poludjeli, totalno su nabrijani i opasni po internet.
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Imali su nekih 5-6 krugova na mekim na kraju treceg i tu je Rozberg bio bolji na pocetku ali su mu onda padala vremena,dok je Sumi izvlacio bolje krugove cini mi se.No cekam da se pojave rezultati na sajtu FIAe,to sam ja pratio uporedo trening i live timing pa ne znam tacno
MICHAEL, THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR LIFE WITH US!
Massica koristi soft u Q1 vec da bi se probio do Q2. Ucestujem u zalosti.
"LIFE IS ABOUT PASSIONS. THANK YOU FOR SHARING MINE." - Michael Schumacher
Cujes GAZDU, NOT BAD veli![]()
"LIFE IS ABOUT PASSIONS. THANK YOU FOR SHARING MINE." - Michael Schumacher
Dva BENZA na pol, savrsen rezultat prvi i drugi.
Ali kakav krug Rosberga, sve je ostalo u sjebci toga. SVE mu se poklopilo, ODLICNO !!!
"LIFE IS ABOUT PASSIONS. THANK YOU FOR SHARING MINE." - Michael Schumacher
Schumacher svima objasnio u najbrzem bolidu, sem jedinom covjeku koji vozi isti bolid.
Release Yourself
Zastrasujuci krug Rozberga,svaka mu cast,ovo je perfect storm!Prvi sektor je napravio razliku,tu je bio nenormalan!
Ali Sumi najjaci,vrijeme Nika,ok Majkl 1:35.1,kad veli brat OK :lolblue:
Sad da vidim pres mada u trci nemaju sto da traze,pogledajte Zauber dje je jos ima masu bolji race pace.5-6. mjesto na kraju plafon
MICHAEL, THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR LIFE WITH US!
Dzabe im je sve kad ce izgubiti te dvije pozicije .
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Mercedesi imaju nikad bolju situaciju. Krecu ispred a uz to najbrzi rivali krecu dosta iza.
Release Yourself
Ja samo znam da je neko dobio 1500 eura zahvaljujuci Britniju.
P.S. ja mislim da je to sve sto se tice Benza, ali dobro, cekali smo ovaj pol punih 57 godina.
SUI ima prljavu stranu i tu ce ga neko skinut...
Race pace im je slab.
Finger boy van Q3???
Last edited by Fabia_Elegance!; 14-04-12 at 09:28.
TAKUMI
Nije Mercedes pola sekunde brzi od ostalih, to je zavaravanje.
Ono sto me posebno brine su izjave ostalih vozaca, a to je da se staza u Q3 ohladila i da su SVI imali problema da ugriju gume, zato neko ima brze krugove u Q2 nego u Q3. To je rekao Ganjola, Butko, Rajko... skoro svi posle kvala.
A to znaci da Mercedes opet pregrijava gume, jer su njihove temperature u Q3 bile optimalne, za razliku od svih ostalih. A to opet znaci da ce na trku degradacija bit velika, i opet los race pace.
VANSERIJSKI krug Rosberga, svaki detalj mu se poklopio, temperatura, stanje guma, i jedna idealna putanja bez imalo trzaja ili bilo cega. Onakav krug se vidja jednom u 4-5 sezona Formule 1 definitivno. Brundle cak rece da misli da je to najbolji krug od kad je on u F1.
Nadam se da ce bit sjutra ok, bar da ce saradjivat da odbrane taj pol.
GAZDA krece sa prljavije strane, to jes.
Samo da Kobajasi ne poludi pa ne udari nekoga i napravi haos.
"LIFE IS ABOUT PASSIONS. THANK YOU FOR SHARING MINE." - Michael Schumacher
Speed trap:
Driver Speed
Sergio Perez 322.4
Kamui Kobayashi 319.6
Jean-Eric Vergne 319.4
Romain Grosjean 318.4
Daniel Ricciardo 316.8
Vitaly Petrov 315.9
Heikki Kovalainen 315.8
Kimi Räikkönen 314.9
Bruno Senna 314.5
Michael Schumacher 314.1
Pastor Maldonado 313.9
Nico Hulkenberg 313.8
Nico Rosberg 313.8
Paul di Resta 313.5
Jenson Button 313.4
Lewis Hamilton 313.2
Fernando Alonso 312.7
Felipe Massa 312.6
Sebastian Vettel 311.5
Mark Webber 311.3
Narain Karthikeyan 311.0
Pedro de la Rosa 310.3
Charles Pic 307.7
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Ipak kladjenje na Rosberga nisu bacene pare.
Release Yourself
IKONA. Slike od danas.
Imao je ooooodlicno vrijeme.
"LIFE IS ABOUT PASSIONS. THANK YOU FOR SHARING MINE." - Michael Schumacher
NSX je uplatio juce stojku, i danas dobio kes, i to masivan kes.
Vozaci Benza imaju razlicite set-upove, Britni je odlucio za set up koji brze zagrijava gume, ŠUI za ovaj drugi i zbog toga je Britni pola sekunde brži.
Ako sjutra bude hladno, Britni ima dobre sanse. Ako ne onda je najebao.
RBR odusevljava!
TAKUMI
Oooooooo, srecne pare NSX :angel:
"LIFE IS ABOUT PASSIONS. THANK YOU FOR SHARING MINE." - Michael Schumacher
Naceraj ga sjutra (kad bude dosao po tebe) da kupi cips, koka kolu i prateci materijal.
TAKUMI
Bojim se onog ludaka na startu.Niko je blago promijenio set up za Q3 i odatle ova brzina,ali je stvarno odvozio savrseni krug.No njemu Kina lezi i nekako je normalno sto se pokusalo sa njim,problem ce biti trka za obje Mecke.Bice hladno sigurno ali ako bude kisa tesko ce uciniti nesto vise.Treba da je hladno i suvo.Prvi pol,bice velikog pritiska na startu sjutra.
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