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    Џелалудин Руми
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    Мевлана Џелалудин Руми (фарси: مولانا جلال الدین محمد رومی) је био персијски исламски филозоф, теолог, правник, песник и суфи мистик из 13. века. Име Руми добио је због тога што је живот провео у Руму, данашња средња Анадолија, а Мевлана на фарсију значи "наш водич" или "наш господар".

    Рођен је 30. септембар, 1207. године у граду Балху у покрајини Хорасан (данашњи Афганистан)[1]. Потиче из угледне породице, а његов отац Бахаудин Велад је такође био велики учењак. Пред најездом Монгола, његова породица напушта Балх 1213. године. Према предању, у граду Нишабуру срећу чувеног мистика Атара, који је, видевши Бахаудина и Џелалудина, узвикнуо: „Гле чуда! Долази нам река која води моћни океан!“. Тада је чувени суфија малом Џелалудину поклонио своју Књигу тајни (Есрарнаме)[1]. Породица се настањује у граду Коња у Турској, где Руми остаје до краја живота. Након смрти оца 1231. године, Џелалудин одлази у Сирију и проводи седам година у Дамаску и Халепу, након чега се враћа у Коњу и почиње да живи аскетским начином живота. Руми није био ни најмање верски искључив - имао је пуно пријатеља хришћана, посећивао је хришћанска светилишта, а у његовим делима има и метафора које воде порекло из Јеванђеља и хришћанског предања[1].
    “ Тражити пут до љубави разумом, исто је што и тражити свјетиљком сунце. ”

    Руми је неколико година је предавао теолошке науке. Након тога се његов живот мења под утиском сусрета са старим мистиком Шамсе Табризијем, пише Диване Шамсе Табризи[1]. Џалалудин се од научника и правника преображава у мистика и песника који пише инспирисан "божанским" људима. Под утиском личности Салахудина Заркуба, једноставног, неписменог човека чисте душе, пише око 70 газала. Након Салахудинове смрти, његов ученик Хасамудин Ћалабија му служи као инспирација да напише ремек дело Маснавие Манави (Духовну Месневију) која спада у највише узлете људске мисли[1].
    Румијев гроб у Коњи, Турска.
    Румијев гроб у Коњи, Турска.

    Руми умире у Коњи (данашња Турска) 17. децембра 1273. године. Његовој сахрани је присуствовало на хиљаде становника града, било да су муслимани, хришћани или јевреји. Он сам је оставио аманет да му на сахрани свира музика[1]. Та ноћ остаје позната као Ноћ венчања (Шабе Арус), и од тада сваке године долази река његових поштовалаца из целога света на његово турбе.

    Izvor navoda:

    http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/

    Na Engleskom postoji vise informacija o ovom pjesniku.
    Na njega me je uputio jedan divni prijatelj a ovdje cu postaviti i recitate by Sharam Shiwa koji je uradio cd pod nazivom Loverdrunk a divne citate koji govore o ljubavi mozete preuzeti na sledecim linkovima:

    http://www.ziddu.com/download/209966...drunk.mp3.html
    http://www.ziddu.com/download/209957...earls.mp3.html
    http://www.ziddu.com/download/209973...dtome.mp3.html
    http://www.ziddu.com/download/209983...omuch.mp3.html
    http://www.ziddu.com/download/209986...drunk.mp3.html

    Dodjoh na ovu zamisao da vam predstavim i ovu poeziju.. inspirisana rijecima i interpretacijom smatram da ljudi koji posjecuju i ovu sekciju, ne smiju biti uskraceni za ovo maleno a ipak veliko otkrice..
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    Skinula sam nedavno sa youtube njegove jace pjesme mozda je kvalitet losiji ali to ne umanjuje jacinu fabule..

    poslusajte:

    http://www.ziddu.com/download/215066...fLove.mp3.html
    http://www.ziddu.com/download/215066...rface.mp3.html
    http://www.ziddu.com/download/215067...rning.mp3.html

    Svako kome se ove interpretacije budu svidjele neka da komentar kako se osjecao

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    Iskreno, nisam oduševljena interpretacijama U principu, to se nije ni moglo očekivati od mene, tako da... do mene je, neka bude ;p

    Zalećela sam se baš maloprije da otvorim temu o Rumiju.

    Ostavila bih par stihova od njega, onda...

    A Time for Madness

    Once more,
    Love is pouring down my ceiling
    and my walls.
    Once more, it's the night of the full Moon,
    it is time for madness.
    All my immense knowledge
    cannot help me now.
    Once more,

    Insomnia took my patience.
    Rain washed away my intellect.
    The Lover made me lose my profession.
    What good is my work anyway?

    Once more, rise, rise, rise,

    Like the way a garden burns
    in a hundred shades of orange in the fall,
    a Lover's heart shrivels for a sense of the Beloved's touch.
    Now the face of that charred garden
    is my field of flowers.

    Look, two hundred Jupiters
    are dancing around my Moon.

    My Love business is booming,
    but don't credit the consultants.
    I am done with the consultants
    and the pundits,
    they call you Jafar the imposter.
    Little do they know,
    that you are my Shams the Flyer.

    Ili........


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    Lightbulb Love said to me...

    (kako ću malo da bombardujem ovu temu, tako katkad ;D)

    I worship the Moon.
    Tell me of the soft glow of a
    candle light and the sweetness of my Moon.

    Don't talk about sorrow,
    tell me of that treasure,
    hidden if it is to you,
    then just remain silent.

    Last night I lost my grip on reality
    and welcomed insanity.

    Love saw me and said -
    I showed up, wipe you tears
    and be silent.

    I said - Oh Love,
    I am frightened,
    but it's not you.

    Love said to me -
    There is nothing that is not me,
    be silent.
    I will whisper secrets in your ear;
    just nod yes
    and be silent.

    A soul Moon
    appeared in the path of my heart.
    How precious is this journey!

    I said - Oh Love,
    what kind of Moon is this?

    Love said to me -
    This is not for you to question.
    be silent.

    I said - Oh Love,
    what kind of face is this -
    angelic, or human?

    Love said to me -
    This is beyond anything that you know.
    Be silent.

    I said - Please reveal this to me.
    I am dying in anticipation.

    Love said to me -
    That is where I want you:
    Always on the edge,
    be silent.
    You dwell in this hall of
    images and illusions,
    leave this house now
    and be silent.

    I said - Oh Love,
    tell me this:
    Does the Lord know you are
    treating me this way?

    Love said to me -
    Yes, He does.
    Just be totally…
    totally… silent.
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    ...Out beyond Ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,
    there is a field. I'll meet you there.

    When the soul lies down in that grass,
    the world is too full to talk about.
    Ideas, language, even the phrase 'each other'
    doesn't make any sense...
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    Ostavljah na engleskom jeziku, jer je slabo prevoda na naš jezik Rumija, tj skoro nikako, pa me uhvati strah da ja prevodim već jednom prevedeno. Al evo nešto a da je prošlo tu torturu (nisam ja, nisam ja ;p)...

    U ovom momentu kad si zauzet sobom, prijatelj ti deluje kao bodlja.
    U trenutku kad si izvan sebe, čemu ti služi prijatelj?
    U ovom momentu kad si zauzet sobom, žrtva si mušice.
    U trenutku kad si izvan sebe, loviš slonove.
    U ovom momentu kad si zauzet sobom, zatvaraš se u oblak čemera.
    U trenutku kad si izvan sebe, Mesec te uzima u zagrljaj.
    U ovom momentu kad si zauzet sobom, prijatelj se odaljuje od tebe.
    U trenutku kad si izvan sebe pruža ti se vino prijatelja.
    U ovom momentu kad si zauzet sobom, osušen si kao lišće jeseni.
    U trenutku kad si izvan sebe, zima ti deluje kao proleće.
    Svi ti nemiri dolaze iz traganja za mirom: Traži nemir kako bi dospeo do mira.
    Sve te muke dolaze iz traganja za uživanjem;
    Ako se odrekneš uživanja, otrov će ti delovati slatko.
    Sva ta nezadovoljstva su stvorena tvojim traganjem za zadovoljstvom:
    Inače, zadovoljstva svih tvojih želja bi bila predana pred tvojim nogama.
    Budi sklon tiraniji tvog prijatelja, ne njegovoj sklonosti k tebi,
    Kako bi lepota koja je podla postala zaljubljenik koji plače.
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    A Smile and A Gentleness
    There is a smile and a gentleness
    inside. When I learned the name
    and address of that, I went to where
    you sell perfume. I begged you not
    to trouble me so with longing. Come
    out and play! Flirt more naturally.
    Teach me how to kiss. On the ground
    a spread blanket, flame that's caught
    and burning well, cumin seeds browning,


    Some Kiss We Want
    There is some kiss we want with
    our whole lives, the touch of
    spirit on the body. Seawater
    begs the pearl to break its shell.
    And the lily, how passionately
    it needs some wild darling! At
    night, I open the window and ask
    the Moon to come and press its
    face against mine.
    Breathe into
    me.
    Close the language- door and
    open the love window. The Moon

    won't use the door, only the window.
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    Ti personifikuješ Božiju poruku,
    Ti si odraz Kraljevog lica,
    Ne postoji ništa u ovom Univerzumu a da ti to nisi.
    Sve što hoćeš, traži unutar sebe - ti si to.
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    Nocas...
    ..je ta noc -
    Kreacija tog prostranstva Vjecnosti.
    To nije obicna noc,
    vec vjencanje onih koji Ljubav traze.
    Nocas...
    Mlada i mladozenja
    govore istim jezikom.
    Nocas...
    Dvorana za vjencanja
    izgleda posebno blistavo.
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    Default I saw Goodness getting drunk

    I am gone,
    lost any sense of wanting the wine
    of the nowhereness ask me,
    I don't know where I am.
    At times I plunge
    to the bottom of the sea,
    at times, rise up
    like the Sun.

    At times, the universe is pregnant by me,
    at times I give birth to it.
    The milestone in my life
    is the nowhereness,
    I don't fit anywhere else.
    This is me:
    a rogue and a drunkard,
    easy to spot
    in the tavern of Lovers.
    I am the one shouting hey ha.

    They ask me why I don't
    behave myself.
    I say, when you
    reveal your true nature,
    then I will act my age.

    Last night, I saw Goodness getting drunk.
    He growled and said,
    I am a nuisance, a nuisance.
    A hundred souls cried out, but
    we are yours, we are yours, we are yours.
    You are the light
    that spoke to Moses and said
    I am God, I am God, I am God.
    I said Shams-e Tabrizi, who are you?
    He said, I am you, I am you, I am you.
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    With the Beloved's water of life, no illness remains
    In the Beloved's rose garden of union, no thorn remains.
    They say there is a window from one heart to another
    How can there be a window where no wall remains?

    From Thief of Sleep
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    You think you are alive
    because you breathe air?
    Shame on you,
    that you are alive in such a limited way.
    Don't be without Love,
    so you won't feel dead.
    Die in Love
    and stay alive forever.
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    To Love is to be God.
    Never will a Lover's chest
    feel any sorrow.
    Never will a Lover's robe
    be touched by mortals.
    Never will a Lover's body
    be found buried in the earth.
    To Love is to be God.

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    To heal the burning of your sorrow,
    I seek a flame.
    To gather the dust of your door,
    I seek the palms of my hands.
    To deal with you hiding behind your holiness,
    I seek a good time instead.

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    My head is bursting
    with the joy of the unknown.
    My heart is expanding a thousand fold.
    Every cell,
    taking wings,
    flies about the world.
    All seek separately
    the many faces of my love.

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    The minute I heard my first love story,
    I started looking for you, not knowing
    how blind that was.
    Lovers don't finally meet somewhere,
    they're in each other all along.

    -----------------------------------------------

    Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity.
    The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death.
    Tomorrow, when resurrection comes,
    The heart that is not in love will fail the test.

    -----------------------------------------------
    When I am with you, we stay up all night,
    When you're not here, I can't get to sleep.
    Praise God for these two insomnias!
    And the difference between them.


    ---------------------------------------------

    Suddenly the drunken sweetheart appeared out of my door.
    She drank a cup of ruby wine and sat by my side.
    Seeing and holding the lockets of her hair
    My face became all eyes, and my eyes all hands.

    ------------------------------------
    I have phrases and whole pages memorized,

    but nothing can be told of love.
    ]You must wait until you and I
    are living together.
    In the conversation we'll have
    then...be patient...then.

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    When the sweet glance of my true love caught my eyes,
    Like alchemy, it transformed my copper-like soul.

    I searched for Him with a thousand hands,
    He stretched out His arms and clutched my feet.

    ----------------------------------------------
    Let the lover be disgraceful, crazy,
    absentminded. Someone sober
    will worry about things going badly.
    Let the lover be.

    ----------------------------
    When your chest is free of your limiting ego,
    Then you will see the ageless Beloved.
    You can not see yourself without a mirror;
    Look at the Beloved, He is the brightest mirror.


    -----------------------------------------
    When you find yourself with the Beloved, embracing for

    one breath,
    In that moment you will find your true destiny.
    Alas, don't spoil this precious moment
    Moments like this are very, very rare.


    -----------------------------------------------
    Your love lifts my soul from the body to the sky

    And you lift me up out of the two worlds.
    I want your sun to reach my raindrops,
    So your heat can raise my soul upward like a cloud.


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    The Freshness

    When it's cold and raining,
    you are more beautiful.
    And the snow brings me
    even closer to your lips.
    The inner secret, that which was never born,
    you are that freshness, and I am with you now.
    I can't explain the goings,
    or the comings. You enter suddenly,
    and I am nowhere again.
    Inside the majesty.
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