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    Croatia


    I. State territory (compare the attached sketch) - After the transfer of the Semlin territory from Serbia to Croatia, performed on 10/10/1941, the frontiers towards Serbia are now determined in general.


    The frontier towards Hungary is still in dispute, since the Mur Island is kept occupied by the Hungarians. The Mur Island was Croatian possession up to the beginning of the 18th century and then again from 1848-1867, and from 1919-1941 it belonged to Yugoslavia. 98% of its population profess allegiance to the Croatian ethnic group.


    The present frontiers coincide approximately with those of old Croatia, Slavonia, Bosnia, Hercegovina, and parts of the coastal regions and of Dalmatia. Considerable parts of the last mentioned territories were ceded to Italy.


    Croatia is divided into a German and an Italian sphere of interests. The cooperation between Croatians and Italians is strained.


    The population of Croatia amounts today to about five million, whereof nearly two million are Serbs.


    II. Government - State Leader (Poglavnik) of the "independent State of Croatia" is Dr. Ante Pavelic. He is assisted by a council of 12 members (Doglavnici); besides by another council of 7 members (Poglavni-Pobocnici).


    The acceptance of a king from the Italian royal house is not welcomed by all parts of the people. The Duke of Spoleto is being considered as king, however is not yet elected.


    III. Administration - The administration is but in a state of organization and is very much handicapped by encroachments of the Ustasha on the one hand and by revolts of the oppressed Serbians on the other hand. The German military interests are safeguarded by the German General in Zagreb, Brigadier General Dr. H. C. von Glaise-Horstenau.


    IV. Armed forces - Minister of War and commander of the Croatian armed forces is Marshal Kvaternik; chief of the General Staff, General of the Air Force Laxa. At present the Croatian Army consists of - 5 division staffs, 46 infantry battalions activated as regards personnel, and 1 bicycle battalion. The 10 activated artillery battalions are not yet fully equipped. Furthermore, there exists 15 infantry replacement battalions. Three cavalry battalions are employed for the most part as infantry units, since there is lack of horses. Three corps staffs, one more division staff, two signal battalions, and four engineer battalions are being activated. The arms are for a great deal material captured by the Germans, and only a small part of the army are trained with them so far.


    A Croatian Legion (army, navy and air force units) is attached to the German armed forces for the fight against bolshevism.


    V. Internal political situation


    a. The Ustasha - Dr. Pavelic established in Italy the organization of the Ustasha (insurgents). In Yugoslavia Eugen Kvaternik saw to a further extension and consolidation of this formerly secret organization.


    The goal of the Ustasha was the creation of an independent Croatian national state by uncompromising fight against the Serbs.


    According to its organization statute the Ustasha consists of:


    The political organization - It has the task to educate the members, to imbue the minds of the whole nation with the Ustasha spirit, and to care for the youth.


    The Ushtasha militia (para-military organization) - It is responsible for the pre and post military training, and has also to do some racial education work.


    The Ustasha are fanatical enemies of the Serbs. After Dr. Pavelic's accession to power the unbridled attitude of numerous Ustasha men, especially against the Serbian part of the people, was very detrimental to the reputation of the movement. The Ustasha ministry is now doing what is necessary for discipline and for a strict organization of the Ustasha units. They are organized into Stuerme (units corresponding to a company) and are also operating in the insurgent areas under the command of Croatian army officers. There they proved themselves.


    b. The Jewish and Serbian problem - There have always been strained relations between the Roman Catholic Croatians and the Greek Orthodox Serbs (Pravoslavs). The young Croatian State at once issued laws according to the model of the Nuernberg Laws concerning Jews, to which Jews and Serbs were subject in like manner. This resulted in most severe persecutions of Serbs, and at some places degenerated into a religious war against the Orthodox Church. Serbs were chased by thousands over the frontiers and thereby robbed of their last property.


    c. Insurgent movement - The reasons for the insurrection were the partly artificially intensified animosity towards the Serbs, Communist and English agitation, and the disunion within the Ustasha.


    Upholders of the insurrection are undisciplined Ustasha units, Serbian, and Communist bands. The insurrection is kept alive by atrocities, committed on both sides, and by foreign agitators.


    Fight against the insurrection - In the Italian sphere of interest, after its being occupied by numerous Italian divisions, the situation is generally calm. In the German sphere of interest Croatian units, partly with German assistance, are fighting the insurrection centers with varying success. Acts of sabotage against railroads and means of signal communication increase in number. In Zvornik (near the Serbian-Croatian frontier) a German battalion successfully defended itself for weeks against continuous enemy attacks. A large scale relief operation is being staged by the Croatians.


    Montenegro


    Montenegro is an independent kingdom under a King of the Italian royal house. The King was not yet elected, since here, as in Croatia, the people reject the Italians.


    In the area of the Sandshak Novi Pazar, all over northern Montenegro as well as near Kolasin, bands with military organizations under the command of Serb General Ljubo Novakovic are fighting against Italians and Croatians. Southern Montenegro is calm. The population complied here with the request of the Italians to deliver up the arms.

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    "V: Hostages, Reprisals and Collective Measures in the Balkans. Measures Against Partisans and Partisan Areas: (B) Contemporaneous Documents: Translation of Document NOKW-235, Prosecution Exhibit 140: Order of General Boehme, 11/2/1941, Concerning Suppression of Serbian Resistance", in Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunals Under Control Council Law No. 10. Vol. 11: United States of America v. Wilhelm List, et al. (Case 7: 'Hostage Case'). US Government Printing Office, District of Columbia: 1950. pp. 993-995.



    Supplement 113


    [Handwritten] War Diary
    The Plenipotentiary Commanding General in Serbia
    Quartiermeister/Military Administration/Ic
    No. 3345/41, Secret
    Quartiermeister Section No. 586/41, Secret
    Local Headquarters, 11/2/1941


    [Stamp] Secret


    Subject: Suppression of the Serbian resistance - signs of dissolution among the insurgents


    1. Under the pressure of the ruthless and successfully carried out operations of the unit, in consideration of the approach of winter and on the basis of the destruction of the Russian armed forces, which is gradually becoming noticeable, the first indication of signs of dissolution are to be recognized among the insurgents.


    2. These signs were to be expected; they do not signify by any means that the opponent will give up his aims. It depends on:


    a. Destroying communism in Serbia in such a manner that flaring up again under more favorable circumstances is impossible.


    b. Destroying Serbian chauvinistic circles which now and in the future refuse close economic and political cooperation with the Reich.


    3. At the same time those parts of the Serbian population must now be won, which have placed themselves on the side of the Serbian Government of Nedic, installed by the Reich. (See directive of the Plenipotentiary Commanding General in Serbia/Ia No. 33446/41, Secret, of 11/2/1941).


    4. The following directives are published for the commitment of the units and the conduct of the administrative offices:


    a. As before, all insurgents who were taken in combat, even if they deserted, are to be shot as partisans. Negotiators who come from territories in which combat actions take place or will happen soon, are likewise to be shot.


    The arrest and shooting of hostages is regulated by the order of the Plenipotentiary Commanding General in Serbia/Chief of Military Administration/Quartiermeister No. 284841, Secret, of 10/10/1941 and No. 3208/41 of 10/25/1941.


    b. Negotiators who do not offer the capitulation of small or large groups under the pressure of combat actions taking place or to take place are to be told that the battle against insurgents will be continued with unabated severity and only unconditional capitulation with surrender of all weapons will be accepted.


    c. Unconditional surrender is to be carried out as follows: The insurgents are to lay down their weapons at a place determined by one of the troop commanders or the administrative area and/or district commandant and are to be brought together in a reception camp of the battalion, regiment, or division. They are to be examined there by the Secret Field Police, SD, and Serbian auxiliary police. For this purpose, administrative orders in my mission proceed through the chief of the military administration.


    d. The divisions are to report in the daily reports, place of the reception camps and the number of prisoners.


    5. The exploitation of the signs of dissolution lies exclusively in the hands of the German armed forces (unit and administrative offices). Serbian auxiliary police may not accept offers of capitulation, but must obtain the decision of the German offices. The insurgents will, nevertheless, first of all approach the units of the Serbian auxiliary police with offers of capitulation. Through getting into close touch with them, it is to be guaranteed that the initiative will remain unequivocally with the German offices. It is understood that a crossing over of insurgents into the Serbian auxiliary police is to be prevented with all possible means.


    Orders of this sort to the Serbian Government are issued through the Chief of the Military Administration. A copy of the order of the Prime Minister Nedic to the branches of the Serbian Government is enclosed as a supplement.


    6. The larger number of the insurgents will attempt to strike through to their home localities unnoticed, in order to conceal themselves there. Such groups are to be arrested by the units or by the Serbian auxiliary police, if necessary with force of arms, and are to be brought into collection camps.


    The following is valid for the seizure of insurgents who succeed in escaping and reaching their home localities:


    a. The administrative offices have received from the Chief of Military Administration an order to prepare exact reports and submit lists, from which the names of leaders of the bandits, members thereof, and all persons absent from the localities or returning there may be obtained. They are to note in addition the localities which have offered the bandits assistance.


    b. In addition, frequent surprise raids are to be carried out by the unit in collaboration with the administrative offices. Because of their knowledge of the locality and population, it will often be practical to use the Serbian auxiliary police.


    7. In doubtful cases - above all, when it is uncertain whether individual groups are to be regarded as "insurgents" or not - the decision of the Plenipotentiary Commanding General in Serbia to be obtained.


    [Signed] Boehme, Lieutenant General, Infantry


    Distribution: Down to battalion and district headquarters
    [Stamp] Secret

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    "V: Hostages, Reprisals and Collective Measures in the Balkans. Measures Against Partisans and Partisan Areas: (B) Contemporaneous Documents: Translation of Document NOKW-905, Prosecution Exhibit 143: Report from 734th Infantry Regiment to 704th Infantry Division, 11/4/1941, Enclosing Report of the Shooting of Jews and Gypsies: Report of 11/4/1941", in Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunals Under Control Council Law No. 10. Vol. 11: United States of America v. Wilhelm List, et al. (Case 7: 'Hostage Case'). US Government Printing Office, District of Columbia: 1950. pp. 995-997.



    [Stamp] Secret
    734th Infantry Regiment
    Diary No. 437/41 Secret Ia
    704th Infantry Division
    Received 11/10/1941
    Branch Ia 598/41 Secret -1-
    704th Infantry Division IVa
    Received 11/8/1941 IVb
    Diary No. IVd
    C.O. IIa IIb Ia Ib Ic III


    [Handwritten] Diary 135141 Secret 470a [Illegible initials]




    To 704th Infantry Division


    Subject: Reprisal measures


    * * *


    For information, the regiment encloses the report of Lieutenant Walther, 9th Company, 433d Infantry Regiment, concerning the shooting of Jews and gypsies on 10/27 and 10/30/1941.


    [Illegible signature]


    [Inclosure]



    [Stamp] Secret


    1st Lt. Walther
    C. O. 9th Company, 433d Infantry Regiment
    Local Headquarters, 11/1/1941


    Report concerning the shooting to death of Jews and gypsies


    By agreement with the SS office, I *****d up the selected Jews and gypsies from the prisoner camp Belgrade. The trucks of 599th Administrative Area Headquarters available to me for this purpose were impracticable for two reasons:


    1. They have civilian drivers. Hence, secrecy is not assured.


    2. All of them were without cover or tarpaulins so that the population of the city saw whom we had put in the vehicles and where we went. Wives of the Jews had assembled in front of the camp; they cried and screamed when we drove off.


    The location where the shooting to death was carried out is very favorable. It is situated north of Pancevo immediately on the road of Pancevo-Jabuka where there is a grade high enough to make it difficult to climb. Opposite this grade is swamp terrain; behind it a river. When the water is high, as on 10/29/1941, it almost comes up to the grade. Thus, an escape of the prisoners can be prevented with few troops. The sandy ground also is favorable which facilitates digging of the ditches and consequently shortens the time of labor.


    After arrival, approximately 1&1/2 to 2 kilometers before the selected site, the prisoners got off, marched to the selected site, while the trucks with their civilian drivers were sent back immediately in order to afford them as little grounds for suspicion as possible. Then, I had the road blocked for all traffic for reasons of security and secrecy.


    Place of execution was secured by three light machine guns and twelve riflemen - (1) against attempts to escape by the prisoners, and (2) to protect ourselves against possible attacks by Serbian bands.


    The largest part of the time was consumed by the digging of the ditches, while the actual execution by shooting (100 men in 40 minutes) went very rapidly.


    Luggage and valuables had been collected previously and taken along in my truck in order to turn them over later to the National Socialist Peoples' Welfare.


    The shooting to death of Jews is simpler than that of gypsies. It must be admitted that the Jews accept death very calmly, they stand very quietly, while the gypsies cry, scream, and move continuously when they are already on the spot where they are to be shot to death. Some of them even jumped into the ditch before the firing and attempted to feign death.


    In the beginning, my soldiers were not impressed. The second day, however, it had become noticeable that one or the other did not have the nerve to carry out shooting to death for a longer period of time. My personal impression is that one does not develop any psychological inhibitions during the shooting to death. However, these appear if one contemplates it quietly in the evening, after a few days.


    [Signed] Walther, First Lieutenant


    Map showing location of burial place of Jews and gypsies shot by 9th Company, 433d Infantry Regiment, between 10/27 and 10/30/1941, near Belgrade on the road between the towns of Pancevo and Jabuka. [Attached to original, not reproduced here]

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    "V: Hostages, Reprisals and Collective Measures in the Balkans. Measures Against Partisans and Partisan Areas: (B) Contemporaneous Documents: Partial Translation of Document NOKW-1028, Prosecution Exhibit 197: Enclosure to Operational Order No. 5 of 718th Infantry Division, Titled 'Combat Directive,' 4/14/1942, Concerning Identification and Treatment of Partisans", in Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunals Under Control Council Law No. 10. Vol. 11: United States of America v. Wilhelm List, et al. (Case 7: 'Hostage Case'). US Government Printing Office, District of Columbia: 1950. pp. 1007-1009.



    [Extracts from the operational order to which this enclosure was attached are reproduced in section IV C.]


    [Stamp] Secret


    Enclosure 3 to No. 1323/42 Secret of 718th Infantry Division
    Ia of of 4/14/1942


    COMBAT DIRECTIVE (For the instruction of the troops)


    1. Enemy - The following are to be considered and treated as enemies:


    a. Partisans - Communist insurgents.


    External marks of identification - uniforms - German, Italian, Serbian, or peasant clothing with rank insignia - Soviet Star on the cap, rank insignia on sleeve. Political commissars - Hammer and sickle superimposed on star.


    b. Chetniks - Nationalists - Serbian insurgents (in as far as they offer resistance).


    Marks of identification - mostly brown national dress. Officers in Serbian uniform, black fur cap with Serbian coat of arms and national colors.


    c. Dangic - Chetniks (in as far as they offer resistance).


    d. All nonresidents and residents who, according to statements, have returned just recently.


    Refugees are to be pursued immediately, particularly since they will be mostly leaders.


    2. Not to be treated as the enemy are soldiers of the Italian armed forces in uniform, soldiers of the Croatian armed forces in uniform (cap insignia large badge), soldiers of the Croatian Ustasha in uniform (cap insignia "U"), civilians, some of them with military overcoats, with a permit for carrying arms issued by the Croatian armed forces, or with blue-white brassards on their civilian clothing (voluntary militia).


    3. Treatment of the insurgents:


    a. Insurgents captured while carrying arms, as well as all their followers and supporters or whoever owns ammunition, are to be shot to death.


    b. Chetniks who do not offer resistance are not to be treated as insurgents. They are at first to be sent in a group under guard as prisoners to the prisoner collecting point.


    c. In searching the villages which were in the hands of the insurgents, the inhabitants, in particular the village elders, are to be asked to state the names of those families whose men have taken "to the woods" and who have cooperated with the insurgents.


    4. Negotiations with the insurgents - Troops are to be prohibited from all negotiations, as a matter of principle. Should the insurgents offer to negotiate, the regimental commander is to be informed immediately and action is to be taken according to his orders.


    5. Procedure during capture - During the preceding operations it has been found that all persons present during the search of houses or villages were driven together by the troops and taken away as prisoners. During interrogations difficulties arose in the effort to find out under just what circumstances the capture was made. That is why each sergeant has to give a slip to a prisoner describing briefly how the capture was made. For instance, "Taken in house while working in stable," signature and unit. The use of prisoners for carrying wounded is prohibited as a matter of principle.


    6. Interrogation of prisoners - In order to make possible the evaluation of prisoner statements, the following factors to be evaluated by the troops should be stressed already at the first interrogation:


    a. What are the names of the leaders, and where are the leaders, including those of smaller insurgent units?


    b. Where are the depots for arms, ammunition, and food?


    c. Where are family members of the insurgent leaders?


    d. An investigation is to be carried out to determine whether the prisoners include such as might be used as guides to hideouts and depots.


    7. Treatment of the civilian population:


    a. The evacuation of the civilian population from entire areas in the villages is to be carried out only by special order of the Combat Command [Kampfgruppe], General Bader.


    b. Villages and houses in which areas ammunition has been found, from which shots have been fired, or the residents of which have aided and abetted insurgents are to be burned down. Other than that, the burning down of villages is to cease in consideration of the necessity for troop billets.


    c. Village residents whose relatives are with the insurgents or who have supported the latter's activities are to be taken away as prisoners.


    d. The approach to villages which are to be searched is, as a matter of principle, to be made under the protection of heavy weapons.


    3. Just and understanding treatment of the population by the troops must show that they are only fighting the insurgents and that the peaceful population has nothing to fear.


    * * *


    8. Executive power - The executive power in the operational area is in the hands of the commander of combat command, General Bader, and will be carried out according to his directives by the divisional commanders. The Croatian gendarmerie units, the Croatian police units, and the Croatian administrative officials who remained in the area will be available along with the troop units until the employment of the civilian Croatian authorities.


    9. Croatia is a friendly country - Troops must be conscious of fact and are to avoid transgressing the prescribed limits of their duties. Regarding food taken from the country, attention is called to the directive issued via Section Ib of the Division.


    FOR THE DIVISION HEADQUARTERS (Ic)


    * * *


    [Illegible Signature] Lieutenant

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    "V: Hostages, Reprisals and Collective Measures in the Balkans. Measures Against Partisans and Partisan Areas: (B) Contemporaneous Documents: Partial Translation of Document NOKW-1156, Prosecution Exhibit 229: Extracts from Report of Commanding General Serbia, 10/30/1942, Concerning Tito Movement", in Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunals Under Control Council Law No. 10. Vol. 11: United States of America v. Wilhelm List, et al. (Case 7: 'Hostage Case'). US Government Printing Office, District of Columbia: 1950. pp. 1013-1015.



    Commanding General and Commander in Serbia
    Ic-No. 4177/42 Secret
    [Handwritten] Enclosure 22


    Local Headquarters, 10/30/1942


    The Communist Insurrection Movement in the Area of Former Yugoslavia


    * * *


    3. Leadership - The supreme leader of the Communists of Yugoslavia is "Tito." He is probably a Croat or a Slovene by origin. He is alleged to have participated in the Spanish Civil War. Up to now, no details could be ascertained regarding his person [personal data]. Headquarters are situated in Mliniste in the Klekovac Mountains (23 km. southwest of Kljuc). "Tito" considers economic cooperation of the partisans - as equal partners with Germany - as absolutely possible also in the Yugoslav area.


    * * *


    5. Strength - Reports available estimate the total number of Communist insurgents to be 28000 to 30000 men, 60% of which are armed. Only a minor part can be considered convinced Communists. The masses are composed of farmers and workers who were misled by propaganda and/or fled into the woods for fear of reprisal and extermination measures.


    Active participation of women and girls as nurses and as couriers is common practice in all units.


    * * *


    7. Organization - The basic unit of the armed Communist groups is the peoples' liberation partisan unit [Abteilung] which corresponds approximately to a battalion (frequently also to a regiment) and which is organized in companies, platoons, and squads.


    When the movement grew, it became necessary to organize brigades which were assembled according to ancestral origin such as Serbian, Bosnian, and Hercegovinian brigades. A further step was the organization of the proletarian brigades which were to accentuate symbolically the part played by the workers in combat. The assault brigades represented a specialization which was due to the acceptance of selected fighters and choice equipment.


    In the 1st unit [Abteilung] of the staff for the Bosnia Krajina even a youth battalion has been found to exist.


    A political commissar is assigned to the leader in all of the units, down to company level.


    Rank insignia - All are worn on the upper part of the left sleeve. Commandant of the zone of operation - like his staff officers, an open chevron with the point on top and the red star below; unit commander [Abteilungs Kommandeur] - 1 red star, two vertical stripes below; battalion commander1 red star, 1 vertical stripe below; company commander - 3 red stars; platoon leader - 2 red stars; squad leader - 1 red star; unit [Abteilung] political commissar - 1 red star, hammer and sickle in gold superimposed, 2 vertical stripes below; battalion political commissar - 1 red star, hammer and sickle in gold superimposed, 1 vertical stripe below; company political commissar - 1 red star, hammer and sickle in gold superimposed.


    All wear the Soviet star on their hats.


    * * *


    8. Method of combat - In combat, the insurgents apply the principles of guerrilla warfare as made available to the troops as early as fall 1941. (Commander, command staff section Ia/F 9/13/1941.)


    However, as can logically be expected, the development of the movement has brought along a change in combat method. On can differentiate three variations.


    a. The ambush of small bands with the purpose of acquiring weapons, ammunition, and equipment to equip new members.


    b. The open attack of medium size bands with the purpose of annihilating the legal armed forces, having for a secondary aim the acquisition of loot.


    c. The conquest of strategically important localities in such numbers as to make possible a total occupation of the territory desired.


    If a large size band is scattered, the subleaders [Unterfuehrer] return to the methods of guerrilla warfare. The attack on morally or materially inferior enemies is considered customary. The bands evade superior forces because intelligence service supply them in time with the information necessary for an estimate of the situation. If a band is surrounded, it scatters according to orders and attempts individually under the protection of the night to leave the encircled area. During the day, all means of camouflage are used like digging in, covering with foliage, climbing up trees, etc. The treatment of prisoners differs. Frequently it is based on propaganda reasons and is carried out in such a manner that the prisoners are not shot to death but are released after having been robbed of everything. If the leadership considers it practical, exchange is also suggested. Officers were shot to death in almost every case.


    * * *

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    "V: Hostages, Reprisals and Collective Measures in the Balkans. Measures Against Partisans and Partisan Areas: (B) Contemporaneous Documents: Translation of Document NOKW-155, Prosecution Exhibit 306: Order of the Commander in Chief Southeast, 8/10/1943, Concerning Deportation of Prisoners and Enemy Deserters, and Reprisal and Evacuation Measures", in Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunals Under Control Council Law No. 10. Vol. 11: United States of America v. Wilhelm List, et al. (Case 7: 'Hostage Case'). US Government Printing Office, District of Columbia: 1950. pp. 1027-1029.



    Copy


    [Handwritten] 111g
    Headquarters, 8/10/1943


    The Commander in Chief Southeast, simultaneously Acting Commanding General of Army Group E
    IaF, No. 604/43 Secret


    * * *


    For Treatment of Prisoners and Deserters in Bandit Fighting, Reprisal and Evacuation Measures


    I. Treatment of prisoners and deserters, execution of revenge measures, and evacuations are not matters of administration but rather measures of combat and/or of combat preparation and of security.


    II. The Fuehrer order concerning the importation of human material [Menschenmaterial] into the Reich to ensure the necessary supply of coal (IaF, No. 120/43 Secret of 7/27/1943) is authoritative for the treatment of prisoners; accordingly, all captured bandits are to be deported to the Reich by way of the prisoner collecting points.


    III. Orders regarding this matter are in detail as follows:


    1. Captured bandit members are to be deported to the prisoner collecting points; the commanders are to examine whether the previously erected prisoner collecting points are sufficient. Further transport from the collecting points into the Reich is to take place according to separate order of the Oberquartiermeister.


    An exception to this regulation is possible only if the combat situation does not permit a deportation.


    The seizure of individual bandits for intelligence missions A (Counterintelligence units, counterintelligence offices, SD, Secret Field Police [military]) is still necessary.


    2. Deserters are also regarded as "prisoners." Considering the good results experienced in Russia when deserters were accorded better treatment, through propaganda, etc., shooting of deserters must be discontinued.


    Directives concerning deserter propaganda proceed through the Commander in Chief Southeast, section Ic/counterintelligence officer.


    3. As already ordered in the directive of the Commander in Chief Southeast, Ia/Id No. 566/43 Secret of 7/14/1943, reprisal measures are to be executed as heretofore with most severe means, if an inimical attitude is discernible in the population.


    In territories occupied by the bandits, in which surprise attacks have been carried out, the arrest of hostages from all strata of the population remains a successful means of intimidation.


    Furthermore, it may also be necessary to seize the entire male population, insofar as it does not have to be shot or hanged on account of participation in or support of the bandits, and insofar as it is incapable of work, and bring it to the prisoner collecting points for further transport into the Reich.


    Surprise attacks on German soldiers, damage to German property, must be retaliated in every case with shooting or hanging of hostages, destruction of the surrounding localities, etc. Only then will the population announce to the German offices the collecting points of the bandits, in order to remain protected from reprisal measures.


    Reprisal measures are to be ordered by the division commanders and/or independent regimental commanders in order to avoid encroachments on subordinate offices and individual soldiers, and to prevent a false, unjust treatment of the population.


    4. In the territories especially valuable to the conduct of battle, the male inhabitants between 15-60 are to be evacuated. They are to be collected together in guarded labor camps and/or insofar as they are capable of working, to be transported into the Reich. Evacuations must be carried out decisively in order to prevent a premature escape of the population.


    The territories to be evacuated are the strips of coast especially suitable for landings, areas of important pass heights and pass lanes, strips of terrain along especially dangerous railway line stretches, etc. The evacuations completed are to be reported through the commanders to the Commander in Chief Southeast.


    5. The order for the treatment of bandits hitherto authoritative - Supplements to Armed Forces Commander Southeast Ia, No. 2868/42 Top Secret of 10/28/1942, to the Fuehrer order re a combatting of so-called commando operations - is herewith rescinded.


    Signed: Loehr, General


    Certified true copy:
    [Illegible signature] First Lieutenant

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    "V: Hostages, Reprisals and Collective Measures in the Balkans. Measures Against Partisans and Partisan Areas: (B) Contemporaneous Documents: Partial Translation of Document NOKW-159, Prosecution Exhibit 417: Order of Military Commander Southeast to Higher SS and Police Leader, 10/23/1943, Directing Reprisal Executions; Report of Military Commander Southeast to 809th Administrative Area Headquarters, 11/26/1943, Concerning Executions: Order of 10/23/1943", in Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunals Under Control Council Law No. 10. Vol. 11: United States of America v. Wilhelm List, et al. (Case 7: 'Hostage Case'). US Government Printing Office, District of Columbia: 1950. pp. 1029-1030.



    Headquarters, 10/23/1943
    [Handwritten] Supplement 110


    Military Commander Southeast
    Section Ia/No. 246/43


    To the Higher SS and Police Leader


    For information:
    809th Administrative Area Headquarters;
    German Liaison Staff with the 1st Royal Bulgarian Occupation Corps


    1. As revenge for the surprise attack on the cattle purchasing detachment at Sljivar (6 km. SW of Zajecar) by a D.M. and a Communist band, through which 8 German, Bulgarian armed forces and police members were killed, 8 German and Bulgarian armed forces members wounded, and from which 2 German Military Policemen are missing, 100 D.M. reprisal prisoners and 300 Communist reprisal prisoners are to be shot under consideration of the reprisal measures which have already taken place consisting of burning down of houses and the losses which the bandits suffered in this operation.


    2. As revenge for the surprise attack on the collecting detachment of the 8th Auxiliary Police Battalion on 10/6/1943, at Jelasnica by a D.M. band, during the course of which 3 auxiliary policemen were killed, 8 heavily wounded and 9 slightly wounded, 100 D.M. reprisal prisoners are to be shot.


    The Higher SS and Police Leader is charged with carrying out the execution. It is to take place in the Zajecar district.


    In the publication of the reprisal measures relating to 1, reference is to be made to the horrible treatment of the wounded who fell into the hands of the bandits and the mutilation of the corpses; in the proclamation concerning 2, it is to be expressed that the reprisal quota would have been considerably higher if the wounded had not been decently treated.

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    sto ucinje ovo druze
    Having a parachute greatly increases your chance of surviving a long fall.
    Have a parachute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antares View Post
    sto ucinje ovo druze
    Pa rece čovjek da postujem hronoloski

    A istina je da ova njemačka dokumenta iz rata nisam vidio na našim sajtovima, pa valjda nekome budu koristila.

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    Ako ćemo pravo mogao si i na onu temu ww2 ništa strašno posebno na fenomen komiteta spasa.
    Vidiš to suđenje kad roni suze nad samim sobom govori dosta i o njegovom karakteru realno.

    https://autonomija.info/cetnici-su-b...tali-zlocinci/

    A ima i trace of evil Njemci su to sve klasifikovali nije sad to nešto novo, no je problem kad neka zemlja od fašiste napravi heroja što jes jes.

    https://www.tracesofevil.com/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluemoon View Post
    ...no je problem kad neka zemlja od fašiste napravi heroja što jes jes...
    Tu se potpuno slažemo. Nema nikakve potrebe da se pridružujemo Hrvatskoj i Srbiji u tom poslu tapetiranja vlastite istorije.

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    Svu ovu komunističku propagandu potiru dva odlikovanja u borbi protiv nacizma,od strane najvećih antifastickih država/vodja TOG DOBA.

    https://istokrs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ac.jpg

    https://istokrs.com/wp-content/uploa...2_12-27-00.png

    Sve ostalo je komunistička propaganda, uostalom ako nije propaganda onda su i komunisti saradjivali takodje...što naravno i priznaju same ličnosti poput Velebita ili one gospodje komunističke ikone koja priznaje da su saradjivali sa Njemcima u više situacija .

    To što su vas ubijedili pobjednickom propagandom (nista strasno, od pamtivijeka ljudi vjeruju u pobjednicku verziju) da je jedno saradnja a potpuno isto to sa druge strane, samo pregovori, nije problem istorije ,nego ljudi koji ne mogu razluciti šta je propaganda a šta istina ...pa je tako čovjek koji se dokazano borio protiv Germana samo 20+godina ranije u ww1 naprasno postao kvisling a čovjek koji se dokazano borio u redovima Germana protiv tog Mihajlovića naprasno postao borac protiv Germana 😂

    Hvala istoriji sto je sačuvala ova dva (medju 8 za koje ja znam) svedočanstva antifašističke borbe od najvećih antifašističkih zemalja ponavljam TOG DOBA.


    Lijep je život pred nama...stiže vrijeme u kojem će trebati da se usvoji rezolucija EU o osudi komunizma(totalitarnih režima,to vam je tamo godinu prije ulaska u EU) pa će biti prelijepe scene kad se budu mijenjali nazivi ulica, rušili Titovi spomenici i ostala znamenja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKOJ View Post
    Tu se potpuno slažemo. Nema nikakve potrebe da se pridružujemo Hrvatskoj i Srbiji u tom poslu tapetiranja vlastite istorije.
    To jes no zamisli situaciju da Njemačka nema ovo trace of evil i osuđuje sve, no u 21.vijek p*ca Austriju da će da obnovi treći rajh? Jer eto istorijski joj to nešto kao pripada.
    To se Crnoj Gori dešava od strane Srbije da ti sad dubokoumna predavanja sa SANU-a ne prenosim u skorašnje vrijeme i sam ih možeš izguglat.Dva klika nije neki napor.

    E vidiš tu je razlika između tvoje i moje percepcije na cijelu temu jer ja to ne vidim nimalo naivno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluemoon View Post
    To jes no zamisli situaciju da Njemačka nema ovo trace of evil i osuđuje sve, no u 21.vijek p*ca Austriju da će da obnovi treći rajh? Jer eto istorijski joj to nešto kao pripada.
    To se Crnoj Gori dešava od strane Srbije da ti sad dubokoumna predavanja sa SANU-a ne prenosim u skorašnje vrijeme i sam ih možeš izguglat.Dva klika nije neki napor.

    E vidiš tu je razlika između tvoje i moje percepcije na cijelu temu jer ja to ne vidim nimalo naivno.

    Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws..
    Srbija neka se bavi srpskim saradnicima okupatora, Hrvatska hrvatskim, a nama bi najpametnije bilo da pripazimo šta se po našim ulicama dešava.

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    Koja je to muka kad neko odbija da vjeruje onom sto vidi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buva+gacce View Post
    Pa da krenemo.





    Šta sve ova priča o prvom Ministru unutrašnjih poslova FNRJ ima da kaže, na svakome je da za sebe izvuče. Poenta je da je sve iznešeno provjerljiva istina.
    Dakako, priča o popu Zečeviću je istinita.
    Ali je ipak samo jedna priča, koja govori o kompleksnosti sukoba tokom WWII na ovim prostorima u vrtlogu ideološkog i oslobodilačkog rata.
    Eto, bilo je i popova koji su bili istaknuti borci i komunisti, a kasnije bogami i ministri u vladi.
    To je priča o pojedincima i njihovim uvjerenjima, kojima ne bih davao širi kontekst.
    Pop Vlado Zečević je kao što se može pročitati i u popovskoj službi pokazivao neke sklonosti samoupravljanju i izražavanju nezadovoljstva krutom hijerarhijom.
    Sasvim moguće da ga je to ideološki kasnije odredilo.
    Neobično, ali ne pretjerano čudno.
    Svjedoci smo da i danas mnogo ljudi završe policijske škole, a postanu dio organizovane kriminalne grupe.

    Pri tom, naravno, ne aludiram da je Vlado Zečević nekakav negativac, nego jednostavno to što je on bio pop, a otišao u komuniste , ne daje njegovim kasnijim pamletima iz komunističkih biltena objektivnu težinu.

    On to piše u avgustu 1942 godine i daje svoj prikaz i objašnjenja sukoba partizana i četnika. Razumljivo je da neće napisati kako su partizani krivi za taj sukob, već eto četnici koji su se okrenuli protiv braće i saradjuju sa okupatorom.

    S današnjeg aspekta, rekao bi ipak da je realnost bila znatno drugačija i kompleksnija.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ostoja View Post

    Koja je to muka kad neko odbija da vjeruje onom sto vidi?
    Meni su slikovnice prestale biti interesantne, kad sam naučio čitati.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massaro View Post
    Meni su slikovnice prestale biti interesantne, kad sam naučio čitati.
    Fotografije mogu bite visestruko interesantne. Dzaba se Valdhajm koprcao da nije imao veze s nacistima kad je uslikan u nacistickoj uniformi na aerodromu u Podgorici. Dzaba ce se branioci cetnika pozivati na Trumana i Degola, kad su uslikani u prijateljskim pozama s nacistima. Kako su se borli protiv nacista, kad na fotofrafijama samo sto se ne cmakaju? Ajd da su slikani bez dozvole, pa da se pozovu na zastitu privatnosti

    Uzgred, kad preturah po slikama naleceh na neki clanak u kojem neki novinar (Australac?) koji je prisustvovao Drazinom sudjenju navodi da je nakon pokazivanja nekog pisma od strane tuzioca (Milos Minic?) iz kojeg se vidi Drazina saglasnost za saradnju s Talijanima, na pitanje tuzioca da li je to znacilo kolaboraciju cetnika s Talijanama, kratko odgovorio Yes (da). Nijesam nesto pratio to sudjenje, pa nijesam znao da je Draza na sudjenju priznao saradnju cetnika s fasistima.

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    Postoje i slike partizana sa četnicima, Njemcima, ustašama...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massaro View Post
    Postoje i slike partizana sa četnicima, Njemcima, ustašama...
    Na zalost cetnika i njihovih branitelja, saveznici su znali ko se bori protiv Njemaca, a ko s njima saradjuje

    krajem 1943, potpisana su četiri ugovora o primirju i saradnji četnika i Vermahta, u zajedničkoj borbi protiv sve jačih i sve bližih komunista. Prvi ugovor ispred JVuO potpisao je major Vojislav Lukačević, naredne pukovnik Jevrem Simić, kapetan NIkola Kalabić, potpukovnik Ljubomir Jovanović i kapetan Mihailo Čačić.

    Ovi sporazumi bili su vremenski ograničeni na šest nedelja. Čerčil je saznao već za prvi i opredelio se za podršku komunistima.
    Nijesu Englezi bez razloga pustili niz vodu Drazu Mihailovica i cetnike.

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    Evo i odlomka iz Mihailovićeve Uredbe broj 101, izdate decembra 1944. godine:

    "Član 1. Uloga i zadatak komande kraljevih komandosa je da: ne dozvoli stabilizovanje prilika u korist partizana ...

    Član 2. Komanda kraljevih komandosa je potčinjena Vrhovnoj komandi.

    Član 4. Komanda kraljevih komandosa obrazovaće odmah pri Vrhovnoj komandi prvu školu za komandose, koju će po svome prelasku na teren Srbije tamo premestiti, starajući se o daljem vrbovanju i osposobljavanju komandosa.

    Član 13. Svaki kraljev komandos mora imati i lažno ime i odgovarajuće isprave na to ime, svoj tajni broj raspoznavanja i stalno ili trenutno utvrđen nadimak.

    Član 18. Za vreme izvršenja zadataka kraljevski komandos ne sme imati nikakvu legitimaciju, dokumenta, spise, napise ili fotografije, kojima može odati ili kompromitovati drugove, starešine, štab, saradnike, zadatak ili organizaciju."

    Svašta je taj planirao ima i transkript suđenja nije to sad nekakva misterija a jes ono volio i drugare da otkucava samo da bi sebe izvukao.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ostoja View Post
    Na zalost cetnika i njihovih branitelja, saveznici su znali ko se bori protiv Njemaca, a ko s njima saradjuje



    Nijesu Englezi bez razloga pustili niz vodu Drazu Mihailovica i cetnike.
    Nijesu sigurno bez razloga.
    Kao što ni Staljin nije bez razloga pustio u Grčkoj komuniste niz vodu.

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    Treba znati da su famozni orden amerikanci dodijelili Mihajlovicu posthumno u jeku njihove borbe protiv komunistickih rezima i progona koji oni vrse. Onda je dosla rezolucija IB i sukob Jugoslavije i SSSR pa su je bacili na stranu i niko taj orden niti je pominjao, niti se znalo za njega do kraja 80ih kada se opet traze zrtve komunistickih rezima. Njegova djeca su dugo odbijala da prime taj orden da bi ga primila tek 2005 njegova cerka pod uslovom da se ne pravi nikakva ceremonija i medijska pompa i odmah ga dala ovima iz ravnogorskog pokreta.

    Sanse da Mihailovic nije znao sta mu rade podredjeni su nikakve a dokaza o njihovoj saradnji sa okupatorom koliko hoces i samo zaslijepljeni odbijaju da vide ocigledno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluemoon View Post
    Evo i odlomka iz Mihailovićeve Uredbe broj 101, izdate decembra 1944. godine:

    "Član 1. Uloga i zadatak komande kraljevih komandosa je da: ne dozvoli stabilizovanje prilika u korist partizana ...

    Član 2. Komanda kraljevih komandosa je potčinjena Vrhovnoj komandi.

    Član 4. Komanda kraljevih komandosa obrazovaće odmah pri Vrhovnoj komandi prvu školu za komandose, koju će po svome prelasku na teren Srbije tamo premestiti, starajući se o daljem vrbovanju i osposobljavanju komandosa.

    Član 13. Svaki kraljev komandos mora imati i lažno ime i odgovarajuće isprave na to ime, svoj tajni broj raspoznavanja i stalno ili trenutno utvrđen nadimak.

    Član 18. Za vreme izvršenja zadataka kraljevski komandos ne sme imati nikakvu legitimaciju, dokumenta, spise, napise ili fotografije, kojima može odati ili kompromitovati drugove, starešine, štab, saradnike, zadatak ili organizaciju."

    Svašta je taj planirao ima i transkript suđenja nije to sad nekakva misterija a jes ono volio i drugare da otkucava samo da bi sebe izvukao.



    Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws..
    Ada cetnike je i kralj Petar bio otkacio.

    Pod pritiskom Britanaca, u jeku bitke za Srbiju, kralj Petar je 12. septembra 1944. pozvao četnike pod komandom generala Mihailovića da se stave pod komandu komunističkih odreda Josipa Broza Tita, a one koji to odbiju osudio kao izdajnike koji „zloupotrebljavaju ime kralja i autoritet krune" radi pravdanja saradnje sa neprijateljem.
    Cetnici se borili za "kralja i otadzbinu", a kralj ih odj*bao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massaro View Post
    Nijesu sigurno bez razloga.
    Kao što ni Staljin nije bez razloga pustio u Grčkoj komuniste niz vodu.
    Staljin nikad nije ni podrzavao komuniste u Grckoj. To je bilo Titovo "maslo". Staljin je zelio da postuje dogovor iz Jalte, a Tito je cerao svoju igru. To je bio jedan od razloga za sukob Tita i Staljina.

    Britanci su pustili cetnike niz vodu kad su vidjeli da od njih nema vajde. I kad su saznali da bi cetnici da sjede na dvije stolice. To cesto tako biva. Kad se zeli sjedeti na dvije stolice, obje znaju da se izmaknu. Pa su tako i cetnici tresnuli u prasinu.

    Cetnici su bili gubitnici, partizani pobjednici. Nikakva rehabilitacija to ne moze promijeniti.

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