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    Quote Originally Posted by kimmi View Post
    Hahaha đe me vrnu u 2006.

    Prije nego što ti odgovorim, moram ti reći da sam se ženio pod alaj barjakom kad je DPS bio na vlasti za vrijeme SCG i kad je zvanična CG zastava bila trobojka.

    Što se tiče 2006. ja plakao od sreće. Bio na onom skupu 19.05.06. i ponosno mahao zastavom.

    Nakon toga sljedeći put kad sam osjećao da treba da izađem na ulicu je bilo kad su bili Oduprise protesti.

    To što sam sanjao 2006. su uspjeli sve da pokvare i u svaki ideal da se počkaju oni koji su Crnu Goru posmatrali kao svoju imovinu, a ne kao svoju domovinu. Umjesto da stvore državu jednaku za sve građane, stvorili su državu u službi jedne stranke i prijatelja, kumova i rodbine vrha stranke, popljačkali je, zadužili, a nas koji nismo za njih tretirali kao državne neprijatelje.



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    Nista ti to mneonly ne priznaje. Ako je on rekao da ne volis crnu goru onda je to to.. kakav je maleni fasista iz sdp-a ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director View Post
    Na istim mjestima i privilegijama. Dritan, Bečić i Zdravko svakako treba da objasne da li smo glasali da djeci funkcionera DPS, BS, SD bude i dalje život luksuz? Ćerka Kenana Hrapovića pravi žurke na kojima bi i Kardašijan seljadija lupila lajk, ima se, može se.
    Šta vama koji glasate front ima da podnosi račune ko osim vaših meda, mande i pipuna ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by irriducibili91 View Post
    Nista ti to mneonly ne priznaje. Ako je on rekao da ne volis crnu goru onda je to to.. kakav je maleni fasista iz sdp-a ..
    Brate ja sam ga namjerno to pitao, znam odgovor, ali da ga podsjetim na emociju...

    A za ovu etiketu, zaista neću da ti odgovaram, ovo ti je ispod svakog nivoa i tebi na obraz.
    Love, peace and respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kliker17 View Post
    E pa majstor je ovaj "MNEsamo".
    Nacera sve nas da prokomentarisemo ono sto je njemu od zivotnog znacaja.

    Kao dijete od dvije godine kad zapne za kinder jaje, pa mu stariji popuste samo da zacepi i ne graje.

    Eto svi dadosmo komentar na himnu gdje je zena zaboravila tekst, sto rece kolega gore i cak se dobro snasla.

    Da je promijenjen tekst u staro "Lovcen kite Petrovici...." pa ajd i da se svi pomamimo.


    Opet, svaka cast mne!
    Treba da budes poslanik, pa uz Draginju da pravis scene.

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    Za ostale učesnike - bez etiketiranja i vrijeđanja. Da mislim na "fašisto iz neke partije" itd.
    Loše stvari dolaze u paketu, za dobre stvari treba vremena.

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    Neka ga ođe:

    https://www.vijesti.me/svijet/globus...tva-i-nepravde

    kuva se i samo što ne proključa..
    but if you wanna find hell with me, i can show you what it's like, till you're bleeding

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    Quote Originally Posted by opmne View Post
    Šta vama koji glasate front ima da podnosi račune ko osim vaših meda, mande i pipuna ?

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    Ti znaš ko za koga glasa... Nego su, kao što sam navikao, sve tvoje priče netačne i prazne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director View Post
    Ti znaš ko za koga glasa... Nego su, kao što sam navikao, sve tvoje priče netačne i prazne.
    Naravno da znam, nije nikakva umjetnost znati, to se vidi.
    Glasaš front zato što nema ništa ekstremnije.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opmne View Post
    Naravno da znam, nije nikakva umjetnost znati, to se vidi.
    Glasaš front zato što nema ništa ekstremnije.

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    Ja da ih glasam ne bi krio. Nismo svi ka ti, ne smiju jasno da se deklarišu kao DPS čirlidersice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director View Post
    Ja da ih glasam ne bi krio. Nismo svi ka ti, ne smiju jasno da se deklarišu kao DPS čirlidersice...
    Jok nego bi se ponosio time
    Na iduće izbore ću glasati dps, kad sam vidio ovo osvježenje žao mi je što ih do sada nijesam glasao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opmne View Post
    Jok nego bi se ponosio time
    Na iduće izbore ću glasati dps, kad sam vidio ovo osvježenje žao mi je što ih do sada nijesam glasao.

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    Aaaahahaaaahahaa . Valja da češće dolaziš ođe brale, omiljen si mi pacijent i od srca me nasmiješ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director View Post
    Aaaahahaaaahahaa . Valja da češće dolaziš ođe brale, omiljen si mi pacijent i od srca me nasmiješ.
    Kakav je to izliv, šta je to, je li šala trebala biti kad je toliki smijeh ?
    Nažalost ne primjećuju se tragovi inteligencije u tvojim šalama. Suviše jadno to djeluje, a toliko se trudiš, žao mi je zbog tebe.

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    A kako neću da se smijem , pogledaj ti komentare moj druže...

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    Evo teksta koji je prošao kroz Google translate aplikaciju:




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    Balkans: Gangs at the heart of a state system

    August 1, 2021 René of Marseilles

    Veljko Belivuk was arrested and detained on February 4 by the SAJ, the Serbian special anti-terrorist unit. The feared leader of a group of Partizan Belgrade supporters and suspected of numerous crimes, is at the heart of an incredible political and media saga in Serbia.

    Serbian and Montenegrin groups have taken over drug trafficking from South America, becoming key players in organized crime in Europe. A rise in power which took place in relation to power, before a murderous clan war broke out.

    The reasons for the outburst of violence in recent years between bandits in Serbia and Montenegro remain sometimes mysterious. Shootings in cafes, car explosions, corpses found in the streets of Belgrade, Kotor or Podgorica, not to mention an unknown number of missing: seven years of gang "war", assassinations and revenge have made at least fifty dead.

    The main triggers are known, however, both of which occurred in 2014. On the one hand, the disappearance of at least 200 kilos of cocaine in the Spanish port of Valencia apparently began to divide the cartel led by Darko Saric and marked the explosion. of the "Kotor War" between two rival bands, the Skaljari clan and the Kavac clan. On the other hand, the arrest of Saric himself would have opened a war of succession between his most loyal - who rule his empire while he is in prison - and ambitious people dreaming of more autonomy and profits that l 'accompany.

    The gang warfare took on more importance two years later, in 2016, after the assassination of Aleksandar Stankovic, known as "Sale Mutavi" ("Sale le Muet"), the leader of the Janjicari gang ("the janissaries »), Formed by ultra supporters of the Belgrade football club Partizan. Traditionally, in Serbia, the ultras groups are a breeding ground for the underworld, as they were for the paramilitary militias during the wars of the 1990s.

    The icon of this parallel world was, during the reign of the president and warlord Slobodan Milosevic (1989-2000), Zeljko Raznatovic, known as “Arkan”, leader of the supporters of the Red Star, the other football club of Belgrade, then the Arkan Tigers, a paramilitary group that worked on the orders of the Serbian secret police. Arkan, indicted like Milosevic with crimes against humanity by international justice, was assassinated at the Intercontinental Hotel in Belgrade, shortly before the fall of the Serbian president, by a killer who, like him, had a bandit gun in his hand and a police badge in the other.

    Since the fall of communism and the wars of the former Yugoslavia, the Balkan mafias have grown to such an extent that they are now considered a major player in international organized crime. Serbian, Montenegrin and Albanian gangs, which began to flourish three decades ago from arms and cigarette smuggling, are now at the heart of the arrival of South American cocaine in Europe. They also traffic in heroin and produce marijuana and designer drugs. Their profits are such that they have invested large parts of the legal economy.

    Legacy of the Yugoslav secret police

    If the criminals of Albania initially draw their influence from the links forged with the Italian Mafias, those of Serbia and Montenegro initially have an original asset, which one finds at this level perhaps only in Russia: their close bond with the state. Woven during communism by the Yugoslav secret police, reinforced during wars by Milosevic's special services, this link remains extremely strong. Experts even wonder if Serbia and Montenegro can be qualified as "mafia states" and, given the financial power acquired by the world of organized crime, to know if it is always the bandits who are in the service of the State, or if it is now these two States which are at the service of the bandits.

    In Serbia there are three different periods. “Milosevic was the godfather of criminals and paramilitaries. Then, in 2000, [Prime Minister Zoran] Djindjic tried to start fixing the problem, so they murdered him [in 2003], ”says Vuk Cvijic, an investigator for Nin magazine. Under the reign of the Democratic Party, between 2000 and 2012, "even if there was still corruption, there was no longer a direct link between the Serbian government and organized crime", thinks the journalist. Two major police operations took place at this time, in connection with Interpol and foreign police services: Operation “Saber”, against the Zemun clan and the Djindjic assassins (2003), and Operation “Balkan Warrior”. », Against the Darko Saric cartel (2009).

    Today, under [President Aleksandar] Vucic, the state and the Mafia are cooperating again to such an extent that there is no longer a clear difference between the two, says Vuk Cvijic. One can even wonder if the Mafia has not become stronger than the State. "



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    Quote Originally Posted by Director View Post
    A kako neću da se smijem , pogledaj ti komentare moj druže...
    Nijesam ni sumnjao da ce ti biti smijesno, jbg kad shvatis uozbiljices se.

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    In Montenegro, the story is different because the same man, Milo Djukanovic, has been in power since the fall of communism in 1991. “Djukanovic is the boss. All the Montenegrin clans have the same employer: the president of the country accuses Jovo Martinovic, a famous journalist who has been investigating organized crime for twenty years. The difference with Latin America is that Pablo Escobar was a bandit acting against the state. In Montenegro, Pablo is president… ”

    The close relations between political powers and organized crime are obviously difficult to prove since, even if certain investigations sometimes go back to a minister or a businessman, "the organic link historically passes through the secret services", notes a European diplomat who has long been acquainted with the mysteries of Serbian and Montenegrin powers. “The trafficking is orchestrated by the governments of Serbia and Montenegro. Many criminals have secret service or police badges. The two presidents work together and have common interests, ”says Jovo Martinovic.

    Experts also underline the role, alongside each president, of a brother dedicated to the management of family affairs. Andrej Vucic, in Belgrade, and Aco Djukanovic, in Podgorica, thus play a pivotal role at the border between politics, business and dirty money. "Drugs are one thing," comments the diplomat. But a Djukanovic has undoubtedly built his fortune even more on privatizations than on trafficking. His brother Aco is a billionaire. "

    "No one on the international scene knows how to deal with the issue of organized crime in Serbia and Montenegro," says Stevan Dojcinovic, an investigator at the Serbian investigation site Krik, because no one understands the heart of the problem: it is not a problem of the corruption of individuals, it is a state system. This was already the case in Milosevic's time, and it continues with Vucic and Djukanovic. It is a difficult state operation to demonstrate. "

    The Italian justice system, which has tried on various occasions to shed light on the relationship between politicians and criminals in the Balkans, taking an interest in particular in Milo Djukanovic in cases concerning his own Mafias, has broken its teeth there. Other European courts have never gone beyond the notorious traffickers. Those who have long been investigating organized crime in the former Yugoslavia also believe that these cases concerning the secret services of States, other intelligence services, American and European, protect them in exchange for information, or even at the end of political agreements.

    Chaotic galaxy

    “The West is trying to bring Serbia to Europe, while Aleksandar Vucic maintains close relations with Moscow and cordial with Beijing. And Milo Djukanovic is historically and sincerely the most pro-Western, pro-European Union and pro-NATO leader in the region, analyzes a European diplomat. In the name of geopolitics, we close our eyes to the illicit activities of these otherwise fragile states. "

    Beyond the very opaque question of the implication of the secret services in the criminal cases, understanding the mysteries of the gangs is not an easy task for the investigators. “The Balkan organized crime has never had an Italian Mafia, with a capo di tutti capi. They are independent cells, which evolve quickly, within groups which themselves divide and recompose. There are around 300 criminal groups in the Balkans, ”Stevan Dojcinovic describes. "There is no Balkan cartel, it is cooperation between gangs, the main task of which is the transport of cocaine from Latin America to Europe", confirms Sasa Djordjevic, from the Belgrade office of Global Initiative Against Transnational Organized Crime, an independent organization based in Geneva.


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    In Serbia, after the assassination of Prime Minister Zoran Djindjic and Operation "Saber", the Serbian trafficker of Montenegrin origin Darko Saric has emerged as the only one to succeed in somewhat unifying this chaotic galaxy. Saric was considered the most powerful drug lord these countries have known in thirty years. In prison since 2014, he was sentenced to fifteen years for drug trafficking in 2018, then to nine years for money laundering in 2020, these sentences still subject to annulment or appeal procedures. At the same time, on the Adriatic coast, the patriarch of Montenegrin traffickers, Branislav Micunovic, has established himself as a powerful coordinator between the clans who watch over the arrival of cocaine. He is aging peacefully in Budva, residing on the top floor of his hotel-casino, the Splendid.

    The reign of Darko Saric was a blessed time for criminals, despite the hostility of the Belgrade power at the time. “Certain Balkan groups have climbed the ranks for twenty years, from petty thugs and messengers to becoming major drug distributors,” notes Global Initiative Against Transnational Organized Crime, in its “Transnational Tentacles” report, in 2020. Balkan groups have become key players in organized crime in Europe, Turkey, Latin America, and as far as South Africa and Australia. For South American cocaine, they operate mainly from Colombia and Ecuador, as well as Uruguay, Peru and Brazil. For the arrival of the drug, they are present on the Spanish, Italian, Greek, Albanian and Montenegrin coasts.

    A video illustrates this relatively peaceful time, before a gang war shattered the delicate balance between criminal organizations. The wedding video of Safet Kalic, a Montenegrin gang leader from Rozaje, shows all of the Balkan criminal bosses, including Darko Saric, kissing and feasting. The video, posted on the Internet in 2010, caused a scandal because it also shows the presence at the party of Zoran Lazovic, then charged by President Djukanovic with the fight against crime within the secret services, and Ljubisa Mijatovic, who will become its leader. of security. The president defended himself by claiming that they were on a mission to spy on the thugs, without convincing.

    Politics, football and underworld

    After the Valence affair and the arrest under American pressure of Darko Saric, who had become too powerful, the balance was upset and the "Kotor war" broke out. It opposes the clans of Skaljari and Kavac, named after two villages around the Montenegrin seaside resort. Kotor has carved out a place for itself in the world of drug trafficking by drawing on its maritime culture. A young sailor from the area has little choice but to become a trafficker.

    In addition to a conflict between bandits for drug money, the experts hypothesize that the Skaljari clan has grown too quickly after the arrest of Darko Saric and began to dream of a certain autonomy vis-ŕ-vis -to the Serbian and Montenegrin secret services. Belgrade and Podgorica would then have favored the Kavac clan, born of a split within the Skaljari clan. Kavac's men notoriously maintain close relations both with hooligan groups linked to Vucic's networks in Serbia and with the secret police in Djukanovic in Montenegro.

    On the Belgrade side, it is obvious that the police mainly targeted the Skaljari clan. Its then leader, Jovan Vukotic, was arrested in Turkey in 2018 at the request of Serbia, extradited to Belgrade and tried for an innocuous reason (the use of a false passport). Members of the Skaljari clan hunted down in Serbia took refuge all over Europe, and some were pursued and murdered in Spain, Germany, Austria, the Netherlands and Greece.

    If no one knows who assassinated Aleksandar Stankovic, the leader of the Janjicari, reputed to be close to the Kavac clan, the disappearance of “Sale le Muet” has also led to a recomposition within the Belgrade criminal world. All eyes were obviously on the powerful Luka Bojovic, at the time chief of the Zemun clan and close to the Skaljari clan. Since then, Stankovic has been replaced by Veljko Belivuk, known as "Velja Nevolja" ("Velja the Problem"), and Bojovic, imprisoned in Spain, has entrusted the conduct of the gang to Filip Korac, the man who has been rising in recent years in the Serbian underworld.

    If the hand of Serbian power in this gang war is difficult to prove in court, the Janjicari, renamed the “Principi” (named after Gavrilo Princip, the Serbian assassin of the Austro-Hungarian Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914 in Sarajevo) by Belivuk, have grown in power since Aleksandar Vucic came to power in 2012. Janjicari protected Vucic's investiture ceremony, and his son Danilo regularly appears in public with members of the gang.

    A link between the state and the Principi was established, according to journalistic investigations, by Dijana Hrkalovic, a former secret police officer promoted by Aleksandar Vucic secretary of state at the Ministry of the Interior, until her resignation, in 2019. Hrkalovic was close to both the leader of the Janjicari and a senior gendarmerie officer, Nenad Vuckovic, known as “Vucko” (“the Wolf”), member of the Partizan supporters club and close friend of the leaders successive gangs, "Sale le Muet" and "Velja le Problčme". Hrkalovic, who describes President Vucic as "a man who surpasses all of us with his genius", has resigned and has been quiet since the revelations of embarrassing stories.

    One of these cases is the discovery, at the organic farm in Jovanjica, Vojvodina, of a 12 hectare field where 65,000 marijuana plants were hidden behind crops of tomatoes, cucumbers and onions, a laboratory and 600 kilograms of drugs, as well as high-tech weapons and surveillance equipment. The owner of the farm, who was visited regularly by government officials, had a fake police badge and license plates provided by officers working for Dijana Hrkalovic.

    Another case was the revelation that "the Wolf" was quietly using a police shooting club to train in the company of the Janjicari leaders, Stankovic and Belivuk, as well as Novak Nedic, the general secretary of the Vucic government.

    Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic is well acquainted with this world which evolves between politics, football and the underworld. Young, he was a supporter of the Red Star in Arkan's time. Engaged in politics alongside Vojislav Seselj, the leader of the Serbian far right and a paramilitary militia similar to that of Arkan, he was Minister of Milosevic. Today, he seems to use the Partizan ultras, the club being traditionally close to the secret police because it belongs to the state.

    However, two new facts have just occurred this year in the Serbo-Montenegrin criminal world. In Belgrade, police arrested in February, to everyone's surprise, Veljko Belivuk and around 20 Janjicari. Justice accuses "Velja the Problem" of murder, kidnapping, extortion and drug trafficking. Since his arrest, media close to power have been relaying the testimonies of families of disappeared victims of the gang. "It is still unclear why the state decided to end this criminal group after years of protection", comments Stevan Dojcinovic. Besides the discovery of a place of execution in a house in Ritopek, in the suburbs of Belgrade, one hypothesis would be, according to an expert, that "the group of Belivuk, which was in the service of the State, went too far. in the racketeering of businessmen close to power ”.



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    The deadly potion of "Doctor Death"

    In Montenegro, Slobodan Kascelan, the leader of the Kavac clan, was arrested in April. There, the turnaround has a rational explanation: the party of President Djukanovic having lost the legislative elections of 2020, the dinosaur of Montenegrin politics finds itself, even if it retains an influence on the secret services and the judiciary, in a situation of cohabitation with a government which is hostile to it. “The state no longer controls organized crime. Djukanovic no longer has full powers, ”is satisfied Vanja Calovic Markovic, the director of the National Council for the fight against corruption.

    Kascelan was arrested on the orders of Dritan Abazovic, the deputy prime minister who coordinates the security services. This young and courageous Abazovic revealed that, in the wake of the change of government, the Kavac clan proposed to him, through the intermediary of relatives of the patriarch of traffickers, Branislav Micunovic, to meet him. Following his refusal, a message reached him: "We will see each other, one way or another ..."

    Soon after, an assassination attempt was foiled thanks to wiretaps revealing the existence of a plan to use a sniper, like Zoran Djindjic, in Belgrade almost two decades ago. Dritan Abazovic said he was "ready to pay any price to tackle organized crime". He notably sacked Zoran Lazovic, the director of the organized crime department of the police, the man who appeared on the video of the Kalic wedding, long considered, according to a source close to the government, to be "the link between state and organized crime ”in Montenegro.

    The relationship between men of power and the underworld sometimes takes a very strange turn. An old story still makes Belgrade howl with laughter - or cry with rage, depending on the interlocutor -. Twenty years ago, a small thug, Veselin Bozovic, was targeted by a flurry of Kalashnikovs in a street in the Serbian capital. He was still alive when he arrived at the hospital, the shooter's bullets not reaching any vital organ. His wife, son and two passers-by, also affected, also survive their injuries. A miracle.

    This was without counting on Doctor Zlatibor Loncar, who was not on duty that day but suddenly arrived in the emergency room of the hospital. An hour later, Bozovic was dead. The police investigation proved that Dr. Loncar had injected him with a deadly potion. “He told us: 'I am going to finish it…”, testified a repentant criminal. Ten days later, the doctor received an apartment in payment for his services. He refuted the charges and was never prosecuted due to lack of evidence according to police.

    Doctor Loncar actually worked for the Zemun clan, at the time the most powerful in Serbia. Then the one that the Serbian tabloids nicknamed "Doctor Death" became a loyal supporter of President Aleksandar Vucic. Today he is the Minister of Health.

    izvor: https://envahis.com/balkans-les-gang...systeme-detat/

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    Quote Originally Posted by mneonly View Post
    Brate ja sam ga namjerno to pitao, znam odgovor, ali da ga podsjetim na emociju...

    A za ovu etiketu, zaista neću da ti odgovaram, ovo ti je ispod svakog nivoa i tebi na obraz.
    Svidja li ti se nova verzika himne? I dalje nismo sigurni koje cemo stihove gurnut mozda nam nesto najveci zivi pjesnik (Beckovic) napise...

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    https://www.cdm.me/politika/velibor-...nskog-pokreta/

    Glavni odbor Građanskog pokreta Crne Gore donio je jednoglasnu odluku da Velibor Ivanović ne bude više neformalni lider ovog pokreta i isključi ga iz ovog pokreta.
    Makoše kobca iz njegove partije
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    Zvezdo ljubavi!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mneonly View Post
    Otpjevala je pogrešno hahahaha, srce moje malo naivno
    Evo se žena izvinjava, imala tremu veliku.

    Ne misliš valjda da je Nikola Vukčević krenuo da brlja nešto oko himne.

    Hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucke91 View Post
    Ahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by wulfy View Post
    ...young and courageous Abazovic...
    a moje ti dritange

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    Quote Originally Posted by mneonly View Post
    Čekamo kimmija i ekipu da se ograde

    Ostavite dijete na miru!

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    E dje bi nam kraj bio da su nam ove velje patriote i branioci zastave i himne grajali ovoliko i podnosili prijave kad su se zaboravljale razne petlje, Ramade, sipanja u Prvu banku, Telekomi, Limenke, 1 posao 4 glasa, ubijani novinari...
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