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    Kinezi ljudi svercuju podatke to je makar jasno kao dan

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    Jesi siguran?


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    jesam siguran da je makar x4 više nego što pričaju

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    Quote Originally Posted by kupus View Post
    jesam siguran da je makar x4 više nego što pričaju
    Kao i svugdje samo su se oni sa ovim izborili

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3g-m View Post
    Nesto zanimljivo, nisam znao da se desilo
    Vidjeh ima i film o ovome


    https://sr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%...%98%D0%B8_1972.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kupus View Post
    jesam siguran da je makar x4 više nego što pričaju
    Budi siguran da je skoro pa svugdje pravi status daleko drugaciji od onoga koji se iznosi.
    U USA su u npr. par drzava sredinom marta tvrdili (oficijalni drzavni predstavnici, doktori i naucnici) da je velika vjerovatnoca da imaju i 100k+ zarazenih vec iako su oficijalni podaci tada bili brojke od par hiljada. Ne testiras dovoljno = ne znas pravu situaciju, simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isak View Post
    Španija vratila Kini 640 hiljada neispravnih testova !!!

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    9000, koliko ja cuh na njihovim vijestima juce...

    Navodno da bi se test smatrao validnim mora da ima tacnost od makar 80% a po ovima koji su testirali, taj 'batch' koji je stigao ima daleko manji procenat od toga...

    Pitao bih odakle nama testovi i kakvi su ali kad bolje razmislim i vidim kako narod prihvata svaku informaciju... bolje ne.
    [otrov] Čiji ćemo dan žalosti danas da slavimo!?? [/otrov]

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    Broj zarazenih nije bitan, citav svijet je izgubio bitku, ovo su pokusaju rasterecenja medicinskog sistema i ocekuju nas jos par talasa sezonskih do vakcine, ukolilo sam od sebe nekim cudom ne ode, a nece

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fidel Castro View Post
    Pitao bih odakle nama testovi i kakvi su ali kad bolje razmislim i vidim kako narod prihvata svaku informaciju... bolje ne.
    Yep, sve se uzima zdravo za gotovo bez ikakve provjere, isto kao i sami mediji koji prenose. Eto za same raspiratore na granici sta ispade a raspiratori nisu ni krenuli iz skladisa...

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    Inace na linku ispod je dobar info o broju testova (nije up-to-date ali ima linkove ka izvoru vijesti pa se moze provjeriti).

    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...ng-source-data



    Interesantno je vidjeti brojke za Japan i kako su uporno pokusavali da "izbjegnu" sirenje informacija ne bi li se ipak odrzale olimpijske... Ako ne testiras ni ne znas koliko zarazenih ima = kao da ih ni nema... Sjeban svijet u potpunosti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fidel Castro View Post
    9000, koliko ja cuh na njihovim vijestima juce...

    Navodno da bi se test smatrao validnim mora da ima tacnost od makar 80% a po ovima koji su testirali, taj 'batch' koji je stigao ima daleko manji procenat od toga...

    Pitao bih odakle nama testovi i kakvi su ali kad bolje razmislim i vidim kako narod prihvata svaku informaciju... bolje ne.
    Ja sam skapirao da je 9 hiljada neispravnih i da su odlučili cijelu porudžbu od 640 hiljada da vrnu.

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    Da presretnemo te testove što ih vraćaju i otmemo ka gusari.Svakog rizičnog testiramo po 5 puta i uzmemo kao relevantne 3/5 rezultata

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    BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson has tested positive for coronavirus


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    Evo ga, a pricao je bezveze.


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    koliko ima zarazenih funkcionera po svijetu?
    ogroman je otrovni oblak interneta iznad crne gore

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    Osta li ko ziv u ovu Spaniju?

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    Ostade No1e na jugu španije marbelja

    https://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vest...nav_id=1670212

    nije kraj...

    I fudbaleri zvezde će donirati respiratore i testove za koronu

    Poslato sa mog sam-sung S9+ telefona...

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    Quote Originally Posted by goozica View Post
    koliko ima zarazenih funkcionera po svijetu?
    Meni ovo liči naaj meni jednu(covid-icu) ovamo dok mi je slobodan najbolji doktor u državi,dok su mi ova dva respiratora doma,dok su mi zalihe ovih ljekova u ormar,dok mi je posluga zdrava da me može služiti,dok nije totalni haos...pa kad preležim,da:doniram dva respiratora,oslobodim tim doktora da mogu ić narodu da pomognu,da doniram ove ljekove, da idem slobodno da obilazim pacijente po bolnicama...poslugu ne dam!

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    https://www.facebook.com/10146157462...0/?d=null&vh=e

    Ovo su veoma ozbiljne optužbe za broj preminulih od čovjeka u bijelom mantilu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tivatech View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/10146157462...0/?d=null&vh=e

    Ovo su veoma ozbiljne optužbe za broj preminulih od čovjeka u bijelom mantilu.
    Odgledah samo klip,posle cu izguglat doktora,ovo o chemu govori je sasvim logichno,moze biti da je chovjek totalno u pravu,jer tolika stopa smrtnosti u Ita je jedino objashnjiva ovako kako on reche,daju terapiju za koju je zaista teshko da podnese potpuno zdrav a ne oboljeli chovjek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tivatech View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/10146157462...0/?d=null&vh=e

    Ovo su veoma ozbiljne optužbe za broj preminulih od čovjeka u bijelom mantilu.
    Hvala za link, interesantno je bilo za pogledati ako nista drugo radi nevjerice novinarke na doktorove komentare. Bukvalno joj se u faci vidi koliko je iznenadjena.

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    The effectiveness of the tests

    According to Dr. In so-called PCR tests, Köhnlein is “programmed to have false-positive results,” meaning that you are often tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, even though you are not infected at all. According to his estimate, this would apply to 50 percent of the test results.However, the opposite is the case!The PCR test (PCR = polymerase chain reaction) examines certain areas of viral RNA, usually two or more specific genes. The test turns out to be approximately positive if the two or more genes are detected. The more genes are recorded, the more precise the text is, but vice versa: the fewer genes are recorded, the more likely the test is negative.This means that
    the test detects the smallest amount of the genetic material of the virus , but in the early phase of an infection it can happen that the test is negative even though you are infected. Conversely, the test cannot distinguish whether the viruses found are still infectious or just "remains".
    Dr. probably thinks Köhnlein also precisely the cases that occurred in patients in Munich in mid-February: They were clearly positive, but were not (more) infectious. But it is precisely for these reasons that further tests are carried out in the hospitals, because the risk that someone is now infectious is relatively high.Who is Dr. Köhnlein?

    The doctor is not an unknown person in certain circles:
    In the past , he vehemently denied the development of AIDS, an HIV infection had nothing to do with it. In his opinion, the use of drugs, medication, presence of pesticides and heavy metals, malnutrition, air pollution or just stress leads to the disease.
    He is also considered a pronounced opponent of vaccination, diseases such as swine flu, bird flu, SARS, hepatitis C, Ebola and BSE were only "invented for profit purposes". He also publishes these views in his book “ Virus Madness ”.
    Last edited by beatnological; 27-03-20 at 13:13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tivatech View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/10146157462...0/?d=null&vh=e

    Ovo su veoma ozbiljne optužbe za broj preminulih od čovjeka u bijelom mantilu.
    Slicno je govorio i jedan Makedonski epidemiolog. Nekad ne treba prelijecit pacijenta.

    Evo nadjoh
    Last edited by samson; 27-03-20 at 13:09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatnological View Post
    Hvala za link, interesantno je bilo za pogledati ako nista drugo radi nevjerice novinarke na doktorove komentare. Bukvalno joj se u faci vidi koliko je iznenadjena.

    --

    Edit, cisto da se vidi i druga strana.


    The effectiveness of the tests

    According to Dr. In so-called PCR tests, Köhnlein is “programmed to have false-positive results,” meaning that you are often tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, even though you are not infected at all. According to his estimate, this would apply to 50 percent of the test results.However, the opposite is the case!The PCR test (PCR = polymerase chain reaction) examines certain areas of viral RNA, usually two or more specific genes. The test turns out to be approximately positive if the two or more genes are detected. The more genes are recorded, the more precise the text is, but vice versa: the fewer genes are recorded, the more likely the test is negative.This means that
    the test detects the smallest amount of the genetic material of the virus , but in the early phase of an infection it can happen that the test is negative even though you are infected. Conversely, the test cannot distinguish whether the viruses found are still infectious or just "remains".
    Dr. probably thinks Köhnlein also precisely the cases that occurred in patients in Munich in mid-February: They were clearly positive, but were not (more) infectious. But it is precisely for these reasons that further tests are carried out in the hospitals, because the risk that someone is now infectious is relatively high.Who is Dr. Köhnlein?

    The doctor is not an unknown person in certain circles:
    In the past , he vehemently denied the development of AIDS, an HIV infection had nothing to do with it. In his opinion, the use of drugs, medication, presence of pesticides and heavy metals, malnutrition, air pollution or just stress leads to the disease.
    He is also considered a pronounced opponent of vaccination, diseases such as swine flu, bird flu, SARS, hepatitis C, Ebola and BSE were only "invented for profit purposes". He also publishes these views in his book “ Virus Madness ”.
    Ma vidio sam da je kontradiktorni zanesenjak ali neki zaključci su pomalo intrigantni.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samson View Post
    Slicno je govorio i jedan Makedonski epidemiolog. Nekad ne treba prelijecit pacijenta.

    Evo nadjoh
    Korisno je čuti više mišljenja. Kažu ni Isus nije bio prorok u svom selu a mi smo generalno skloni da vjerujemo samo nekome ko dolazi iz zemlje sa razvijenom ekonomijom i naučnom tradicijom a kasnije se ispostavi da su naši ljudi bili u pravu i mnogo stručniji.
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