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    Quote Originally Posted by beatnological View Post
    Koja je to *ebena logika da se daje slobodan ulaz nekome ko je vakcinisan a onima koji su preboljeli samo 6 mjeseci "slobode" sa potvrdom od doktora? Pa to pobija svu logiku i zdrav razum, sva medicinska nauka je unistena samo u tom "pravilu", uzas...
    Nauka pleše kako politika svira.

    Čak je i političko tijelo WHO imalo obraza da u januaru kaže da ideja nema previše smisla, posebno u svjetlu pojave novih sojeva gdje je uticaj vakcinacije na smanjivanje transmisije totalno upitan. Plus sama dostupnost vakcina na nivou država je smiješna.

    I EU je većinski bila protiv zelenog pasoša, ukazivalo se na nejednakost koja potkopava temeljne vrijednosti unije i prisiljava građane na odluku, no druga se pjesma pjevala u UK, veliki uticaj na holiday destinacije Španiju i Grčku i dilovi ove posljednje za Izraelom pogurali su EU.

    Glavni mastermind kampanje Tony Blair u seriji obraćanja zimus jasno daje do znanja da ne postoji drugi način. I više nije riječ o zelenom već isključivo vax pasošu po ugledu na Izrael, sada već jasno role modelu za ostatak svijeta. Takav projekat ne samo što nema efekta na pandemiju već otvara neslućene mogućnosti sistema za daljnju invaziju na slobode pojedinca i žestoko obespravljivanje. Ko ovo ne vidi...


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    Tony Blair urges creation of global vaccine passport scheme
    https://travelweekly.co.uk/articles/...assport-scheme

    Februar
    Why Vaccine Passports Are ‘Inevitable,’ Explained By Tony Blair
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzanne...h=18d3c7d741d6

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    EU outlines proposed COVID 'vaccine passport' that could boost travel this summer
    https://www.euronews.com/travel/2021...ccine-passport

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    https://www.vijesti.me/blogovi/52633...je-nauka-bitna

    U ovakvim situacijama opšteprihvaćena je praksa da se prijavljuje bilo koji (čitaj: SVAKI) nepovoljni medicinski odnosno zdravstveni događaj i poremećaj zdravlja koji se desi NAKON primjene lijeka. Ovakva definicija neželjenog događaja namjerno je poprilično široka i osjetljiva a sve sa ciljem da se detektuje što više događaja čime je zaosta za očekivati da postoji dosta „šuma“

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    I'll just leave this here:


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    "We all knew that COVID consequences for convalescents will be bad, and we all now have friends who are suffering long term side-effects. But how bad is it, objectively?

    There was already a horrible study from UK a while ago. Now we have another, on about 50,000 patients. And holy shit is it bad.


    Eight times increased chance of death is a measure that seems to hold here, and across the board. So this is mortality in addition to those who died from the disease: 8 people who had it and recovered die for every person who never had the virus, across a given period of time.


    Four times the chance of ending up hospitalized for some other problem. Essentially, systemic damage increases chances that something will fail somewhere.


    And then there is this image. Purple are patients who had COVID. Yellow is patients who didn't. MACE = major adverse cardiovascular event (heart attacks and similar).


    The top bar graph is bad enough. But that one includes people who were chronically ill. The truly devastating one is the second one, below - these are first events, i.e. the first time these problems show up in a given person.


    This is just an insane level of systemic damage. And something our healthcare system here will have to contend with for a generation. The fact we let the pandemic run wild will cost us all, not just in the lost year we just had, but across decades to come.


    And it is also exhibit A in why one should get vaccinated as soon as possible - if I have any friends left who have doubts.


    (Edited to add: a minor detail that's not in the graph below, for those who don't want to read the paper. Chance of new respiratory illness is 27 times higher. I.e. for every person that is diagnosed with asthma, bronchitis, etc. as a new condition without previous history - you have 27 people with similar new diagnoses among those who recovered after COVID.)


    Full text of the study:
    https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n693 "
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    Šta ono rekoše velji stručnjaci.. Sve maske su savršeno bezbjedne i ne postoji nikakva šansa da bude suprotno

    Čini se da neke sadrže - grafen.


    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...ares-1.5966387

    Face masks that contain graphene may pose health risks

    https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recal...75309a-eng.php

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    Nema kod nas tih fensi sa zapada. Samo ruske

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugi View Post
    Nema kod nas tih fensi sa zapada. Samo ruske
    Misliš ako ih nema kod nas, ne važi?

    Kod nas su popularne od Galenike s nano srebrom i zeolitom. Vele da su efikasne, međutim



    https://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/...to-buy-instead




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    Evo vidiš da na istom sajtu preporučiše triple layer maske...
    Lijepo nositi te (ako već vjerujemo tom sajtu) i završeno.

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    "Anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac"

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    Meanwhile in Kroejša

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    Dokument modelinga ublažavanja mjera i trećeg talasa, koji je za UK vladu izradila naučna grupa SPI-MO i objavila 31. marta predviđa da će među hospitalizacijama i smrtnim ishodima dominitati potpuno vakcinisani pacijenti

    Prema dokumentu, razlozi za taj scenario se kriju u visokom nivou vakcinisanih najstarijih dobnih grupa a niskom kod opšte populacije





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    Zna li se poudzanost ovih nashih testova na antitijela...?
    Sve vishe ljudi chujem da imaju antitijela,a ne znaju da su imali covid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AL no1 View Post
    Zna li se poudzanost ovih nashih testova na antitijela...?
    Sve vishe ljudi chujem da imaju antitijela,a ne znaju da su imali covid.
    Nista tu cudno nije, jos od kraja aprila prosle godine (TY Iceland) je poznato da je veliki procenat zarazenih potpuno bez simptoma. A sada evo, ako je vjerovati, da tezina COVID19 i stepen zaraze ne igra preveliku ulogu u "broju" antitijela.

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    The BMJ (British Medical Journal), jedan od najstarijih i najuticajnijih med. časopisa, u novembru prošle godine konstatuje:

    When good science is suppressed by the medical-political complex, people die.

    u članku:
    Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science

    https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425

    Tekst za preporučiti dragim ljudima koji svaku nebuloznu kovid odluku spremno dočekuju 'vjerujemo u nauku'' mantrom. Možda neki od njih stave prst na čelo i zapitaju se koliko u svemu tome ima prave nauke .
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    Quote Originally Posted by starwalker View Post
    The BMJ (British Medical Journal), jedan od najstarijih i najuticajnijih med. časopisa, u novembru prošle godine konstatuje:

    When good science is suppressed by the medical-political complex, people die.

    u članku:
    Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science

    https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425

    Tekst za preporučiti dragim ljudima koji svaku nebuloznu kovid odluku spremno dočekuju 'vjerujemo u nauku'' mantrom. Možda neki od njih stave prst na čelo i zapitaju se koliko u svemu tome ima prave nauke .

    Ehhh kad bi zivjeli u ovakvom svijetu.

    How might science be safeguarded in these exceptional times? The first step is full disclosure of competing interests from government, politicians, scientific advisers, and appointees, such as the heads of test and trace, diagnostic test procurement, and vaccine delivery. The next step is full transparency about decision making systems, processes, and knowing who is accountable for what.
    Once transparency and accountability are established as norms, individuals employed by government should ideally only work in areas unrelated to their competing interests. Expertise is possible without competing interests. If such a strict rule becomes impractical, minimum good practice is that people with competing interests must not be involved in decisions on products and policies in which they have a financial interest.

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    WHO advises that Ivermectin only be used to treat COVID-19 within clinical trials

    https://www.who.int/news-room/featur...linical-trials


    Ja ovaj ivermectin redovno dajem zmijama protiv crijevnih parazita
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    Moze li za vikend da se covjek vrati iz druge opstine u opstinu prebivalista?znam da se pisalo o tome ali bi mi valjala neka svjeza info

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevann View Post
    WHO advises that Ivermectin only be used to treat COVID-19 within clinical trials

    https://www.who.int/news-room/featur...linical-trials


    Ja ovaj ivermectin redovno dajem zmijama protiv crijevnih parazita
    Eto meni ga dade doktor privatno prije par dana kao "post covid terapiju". Inace WHO mijenja misljenja kao charape, prosle godine su dobar dio vremena bili cak i protiv vitamina D & C, protiv kortikosteroida takodjer al' eto, sve se mijenja.

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    juce 900 hiljada zarazenih na svijetu za 24h, nikad vise od kako postoji korona...

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    Quote Originally Posted by A01 View Post
    juce 900 hiljada zarazenih na svijetu za 24h, nikad vise od kako postoji korona...
    Indija trecina toga.
    Hoce to kada pocne virus da papreno mutira i to u zemlji gdje su prakticno bili dostigli kolektivni "imunitet" u vecem dijelu. No ajd, dzabe su upozoravali pojedini naucnici...

    Veselo ce da bude sledece zime ako sve nastavi ovim tempom.

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    SkyNews ima reportažu iz Bergama o ulozi WHO u globalnom odgovoru.

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    Da je srece i pravde svi na vrhu piramide u WHO bi debelo odgovarali za sva zlodjela koja su uradili u zadnjih 20-ak godina. Ta organizacija odavno treba da se razmotira i da se vidi kako napraviti nesto slicno ali transparentnije.

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    Story of Ivermectin
    Location: Peru



    Real-World Evidence: The Case of Peru. Causality between Ivermectin and COVID-19 Infection Fatality Rate


    https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._Fatality_Rate
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    MIT studija

    New research reveals why some patients may test positive for COVID-19 long after recovery

    A new study from the Jaenisch lab suggests that some virus RNA can be reverse transcribed and inserted into the human genome, which may explain why some patients continue to test positive for COVID-19 even after recovery.

    https://wi.mit.edu/news/new-research...after-recovery

    Kako ovu vijest prenosi Index, iz pera njihovog militantnog novinara Jarić Dauenhauera:

    Tim s MIT-ja: Koronavirus može mijenjati DNA čovjeka. Kritičari: Nije dokazano

    https://www.index.hr/mobile/clanak.a...sti&id=2275634
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    šta nije dokazano, sve mijenja naš DNA uključujući vodu koju pijemo hranu koju jedemo sve ono šta radimo bolesti virusi itd. tako funkcioniše evolucija inače
    She is only here to annoy herself!

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