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    Pozdrav svima, postavio sam temu radi ucenja engleskog jezika. Imam neke planove u buducnosti, i bez toga, rijesio sam naucit' engleski, ako je ikako moguce, poznajem dosta osoba koji su za 'relativno' kratko vrijeme naucili. Moje znanje engleskog je veoma malo, vokabular mi nije los, znam dosta dosta rijeci,sto iz filmova, koriscenja racunara i slicno.
    Sta mi vi preporucujete za kvalitetno ucenje Engleskog jezika, knjige, cd-ove?
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    Ozeni se Amerikankom

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    Za osnovno znanje engleskog jezika, potrebno je da upises kurs u nekoj renomiranoj jezickoj skoli. Oni ce te tamo testirati, i prema tvom nivou znanja predloziti koji kurs je za tebe. Nakon sto naucis engleski jezik da mozes normalno komunicirati, da bi ga usvavrsio jedini nacin je odlazak i boravak u neku od zemanlja gdje se aktivno govori engleski. E sada, sta ti mozes sam kod kuce uraditi da ubrzas proces ucenja. Gledaj filmove na engleskom bez titlova. Fino downlaodujes film, iskljucis titlove, pojacas ton i gledas. U pocetku mozda neces razumjeti mnogo, ali vremenom sto vise budes slusao jezik, slagace ti se kockice u mozgu i vidjeces da sve vise i vise dijaloga prvo prepoznajes, a kasnije i razumijes. Citanje i pisanje je jako bitno. Citaj knjige i casopise na engleskom sto vise. Znaci sta god da bi citao na nasem jeziku, probaj citati na engleskom.


    Za pisanje mozes se pridruziti nekom chat-u na engleskom jeziku i komunicirati sa drugima u pisanom obliku recimo na icq.com. Instaliraj na kompjuter eijecnik babylon pa kada citas neki tekst na engleskom, koristi babylon za prevod novih i nepoznatih rijeci. Sve ovo naravno uporedo sa kursem jezika, a najvaznija od svega je ljubav prema jeziku i zelja da isti naucis. Kako budes ucio i napredovao, i sam ces pronalaziti nacine ucenja koji ti najvise odgovaraju.
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    Dok ne stigoh do dijela: ' sta mi preporucujete ' mislio sam da oces na forum da ucis
    Kao sto ti rekose, kurs neki, sa svim ovim propratnim stvarima. Npr, ja nikad nisam volio da gledam film bez prevoda ali je dosta dobar nacin da ti udje izgovor u uh/vo. A jos bolje da gledas sa prevodom, pa ako mozes da se koncentrises da pazljivo slusas i citas. Kurs ti je svakako najbolja opcija, ipak su to profesori (bar bi trebalo da jesu), i najlakse ces usvojiti nova znanja.

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    Sve sto je napisao Davorp, samo sto je jos bolje da filmove na engleskom jeziku gledas sa engleskim titlom, tako ces jos bolje upamtiti rijeci i uciti i pisanje. Takodje je korisna pismena komunikacija sa ljudima na forumima na engleskom jeziku, i svaka druga internet komunikacija na engleskom. Posto se cesto komunikacija svodi na prosto sadasnje i proslo vrijeme (jer na tim mjestima ima dosta ljudi sa ogranicenim znanjem engleskog, a i dosta Amerikanaca pise oskudnim jezikom) mogao bi negdje skinuti prostu gramatiku eng.jezika i onda vjezbati vremena dok komuniciras sa ljudima na netu.

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    Hvala. To sam vidjeo i na drugim temama vec, na drugim forumima, sad sam jos vise potvrdio.
    Zar nije prvo potrebno nauciti vremena, i koristiti se njima, tj. treba li sto gramatike prije toga ucit, ne bih da mi recenica izgleda tipa : ja bio kupio patike, platicu ih 100e!
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    Pa sad... Djeca prvo uce osnovne rijeci, proste recenice, pitanja... Tek onda dolazi do gramatike. Zavisi kakvo je tvoje predznanje. Jesi li ucio kad engleski pa ti je potrebno da se podsjetis ili ga prvi put ucis ?

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    Neka prvo gleda filmove sa engleskim subtitle-ovima da nauci rijeci kako se pisu i konstrukcije recenica pa onda nek gasi title da bi naucio slusanje (hearing).

    I am so post-rock I shit sad birds.


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    Rosetta Stone + Skype(debelih dokonih amerikanki vazda na raspolaganju) i sto je najvaznije celicna volja
    She is only here to annoy herself!

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    Ne mogu ja na skype, bilo bi kao ono skype laughter chain.
    Vokabular mi nije los, znam dosta rijeci, znam da gradim recenicu, 5 osnovnih vremena znam samo ih sporo upotrebljavam. Uglavnom sad da podjem u stranu zemlju mogao bih da se sporazumijem sa svima, ali bi to glasilo uzasno!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quattro View Post
    Ne mogu ja na skype, bilo bi kao ono skype laughter chain.
    Vokabular mi nije los, znam dosta rijeci, znam da gradim recenicu, 5 osnovnih vremena znam samo ih sporo upotrebljavam. Uglavnom sad da podjem u stranu zemlju mogao bih da se sporazumijem sa svima, ali bi to glasilo uzasno!
    Cesto postoji veliki disbalans izmedju mogucnosti da razumijes sto ti pricaju i da se izrazis. Recimo, najvjerovatnije ces razumjet 90% svega sto cujes, ali ces imati velikih teskoca da artikulises ono sto hoces da kazes, jer ti treba vremena da sklopis recenicu i kontekst. Ali za nekoliko mjeseci upornosti i aktivnog pricanja, pa nebitno koliko gresaka pravis, mozdane vijuge ce pohvatati jezik, i iznenadio bi se koliko brzo mozes da napredujes sa govorom

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    Ajde da si pita' kako da nauchish Crnogorski na Engleskom pa da ima smisla tema za ovaj podforum. Ovako, ili lock ili prebachajte topik nedje drugo.

    A shto se tiche uchenja engleskog, da se pridruzim kolegama, nema uchenja bez konverzacije. Moje iskustvo je da lakse ide ako pochnesh da pricas sa nekim kome engleski isto tako nije maternji. Oboje imate akcent pa je nekako manje stresno. Kad se tu stekne samopouzdanje onda nadji nekog native speaker-a.

    E, da i chitanje i te kako pomaze. Nadji neku knjigu ili jednostavno eng. wikipediju - najbolje o temi koju vec poznajesh. Dnevne novine su menE lichno bile (i josh uvijek su) najteze jer se koriste bombastichne rijechi / slang.

    I, moj lichni savjet, zaboravi na gramatiku. Rijechi i rechenice. Chitave rechenice nabubaj i samo biflaj!!! ;-)

    Sve shto se hoce to se i moze.
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    Pishu li i Englezi ovo Sh Ch Zh ?
    Hvala ti, ali mislim da nema potrebe za premijeshtanje teme, a kamoli za lock! Poz!
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    imaš na You Tube-u dosta video kurseva, sa engleskim subtitlom koji ti lagano objašnjavaju gramatiku, lekciju po lekciju, pa tako možeš da vježbaš i gramatiku, i da slušaš izgovor.

    za početak preporučujem ovaj:


    srećno!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quattro View Post
    Hvala ti, ali mislim da nema potrebe za premijeshtanje teme, a kamoli za lock! Poz!
    Nema na chemu, ako ti sam ne uvidjash o chemu pricham nemam ti shto vishe dodat. Pa, mozda jednog dana uspijesh da srochish poneku i na Engleskom na ovom forumu. ;-)

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    I think there is no need to break this topic, but we should use this place for sharing good experiencies of learning English language.

    And from now on let's start conversation in English .

    best wishes.

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    I think too! .. U jbt, ja ga naucih
    Poceo sam da gledam filmove bez titla i ja sve razumijem, ali kad treba da se sastavi recenika, mukeee.. Lagano, doce i to vremenom.. Sad kad mi krene skola cu maksimalno da se posvetim tome i da' bog da naucim!
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    Ovo je nepravilno


    Quote Originally Posted by millosh77 View Post
    I think there is no need to break this topic, but we should use this place for sharing good experiencies of learning English language.

    And from now on let's start conversation in English .

    best wishes.

    Ovako je vec bolje:


    I think there is no need to lock this topic. Instead, we should use it to share experiencies of learning English.

    Let's speak English.
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    Davor, I fully agree with you.

    thanks for correction.

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    Zajebi ti ovo ja sam savladio engleski jezik do perfecije preko igrica, vjerovao ili ne..jes da sam igrao na americkim serverima, ali ako imas volje nista nije tesko kolega
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    @shollex I think you will fully understand some academic english when you learned English from games. (irony)
    This is not bad idea that we can chat here on english and correct each other. I need practise these days. When we write we should not check on internet is spelling or something else correct, just write and then see our mistaces when somebody else correct us. I think i have lot of mistaces here on this post but hopefully somebody will correct this text
    What do you think about this idea?
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    Ne hodi po zemlji nadmeno, jer zemlju ne možeš probiti ni brda u visinu dostići.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archi View Post
    @shollex I think you will fully understand some academic english when you learned English from games. (irony)
    This is not bad idea that we can chat here on english and correct each other. I need practise these days. When we write we should not check on internet is spelling or something else correct, just write and then see our mistaces when somebody else correct us. I think i have lot of mistaces here on this post but hopefully somebody will correct this text
    What do you think about this idea?

    I agree to what you have suggested, though your post has some mistakes, and if you allow me, I'd like to correct it as follows:


    This is not a bad idea that we chat on here in English and correct each other if needed. When we write in English, we should not spell check on the Internet, just write and let others correct us if we make a mistake. I think that I have made a lot of mistakes writing this post, but hopefully, someone will correct me.
    Davor

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    Davor you would be a great teacher of English!
    Thank you very much. On the other hand I`m thinking how we can motivate you guys that know English very well to correct us? In my opinion the fun (maybe sometimes laught) of reading ours mistakes is not enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archi View Post
    Davor you would be a great teacher of English!
    Thank you very much. On the other hand I`m thinking how we can motivate you guys that know English very well to correct us? In my opinion the fun (maybe sometimes laught) of reading ours mistakes is not enough
    Thanks mate. I really appreciate your kind words although I don't think my skills are good enough for me to teach English, still I do know enough for a normal, basic conversation. I think that people are reluctant to correct someone else's grammatical errors because people would understand what they meant meant even if their grammar wasn't as good, but more importantly, people think others would feel bad about their language skills if they corrected them, and thus be less confidant speaking a foreign language altogether.

    You say "You would be great English teacher" not "great teacher of English"

    "How to motivate you guys who speak English well" It's laughter, or laugh, but not laught.
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    I agree with you on that point. Hmm also I`m not sure is this kind of chating allowed on topic so for now i will opt out (i have used google translate for expression iskljuciti se I hope it`s ok) of the further conversation and leave a space for another members of forum to participate. Although i will jump in again when I feel it will be ok.
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