nemojte nas vishe "drat", kumim vas Bogom! :popcorn: :popcorn:Quote:
Originally Posted by VIERI_32
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nemojte nas vishe "drat", kumim vas Bogom! :popcorn: :popcorn:Quote:
Originally Posted by VIERI_32
Milo mi je sto je Montoya pobijedio i sto je uspio bar 2 boda da uzme Alonsu, Kimi je isto bio dobar i nadam se da su McLarenovi navijaci konacno vidjeli i primili k znanju, da nije bas tako lako preteci nekoga, pa iako si brzi od njega (podsjecanje na komentarisanje trke u Imoli i duel Alonso-Schumacher :) ) :wink:
p.s. sto napravi Kustudic danas, katastrofa!
haaahahaha sto je ono!!! Ono ce se jos dugo pamtit :D :D :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by X3M
No dobro bar se na kraju izvinio i rekao da se nada da svojim komentarima nije upropastio trku
jos im fali da dovedu onoga njihovoga voditelja sto je pjeva' na budvanski festival i onoga celavoga sto vodi impuls :p :p
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Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance!
evo apel od McLaren tima,
posvecen Feraristaima svima:
usporite malo tog vasheg "Feru"
nema smisla da nas vise ovako "deru".
Evo se prosto crvenimo od stida
sto smo tako "loshi", ma ochinjeg mi vida!
Shumi je najbrzi, no ga nesto nece,
sledece sezone vishe srece!
Za svaku trku za poraz nadjete opravdanje,
napishite "Ferarijevi porazi: 1000 zasto? 1000 zato!" novo izdanje!
buduci bestseller, autorski tim - vrhunac pravi,
Fabia, X3M i jos Hercules da vrhunski smori i ugnjavi.
za ovo ti se posebno zahvaljujem te si mi skrenuo paznju, te se evo javno ispravljam: Shumi dere Kimija! Imas neke veze u ferariju, zamoli Shumija da ne bude tako bezobrazan prema Kimiju, on je jos mali i nista ne zna :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance!
naravno da nije lako pretec nekoga, narocito ove sezone, ali Shumi u ovoj trci nije imao nikakvih problema, i jos je imao laksi bolid od Kimija, a Alonso je onda muke muchio i sa motorom i sa gumama. No, meni je vise zasmetala pricha tipa "Shumi je mogao da pretekne da je htio, ali posle onakve trke i dolaska na drugo mjesto uz puno srece, smatrao je da je i drugo mjesto odlican rezultat". PffffQuote:
Originally Posted by X3M
Svaka cast mercedesu ... samo dal' ce ih motor na svakoj trci sluziti kao danas?
Kimi je imao 6 litara vishe od njega, mislim da to nije nishta za najboljeg sa najbrzhim bolidom.Quote:
Originally Posted by pahuljasti_dvometrash
Montoya je vozio dobro i to nikad ne bih ochekivao, bolje shto je on pobijedio, jednostavno Renault mi je brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Schumi usporava ljude? Pa ako je on sporiji shto ga nisu pretekli?
Potpis !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance
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Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance!
http://www.formula1.com/race/news/3301/742.html - Tu kimi kaze zasto
Trku danas nisam gledao, tako da je necu ni komentarisat.
Fabia, ja samo da ti se "zafalim" sto si pobrisao nastavak, vidi se kako trpis kritiku, nema sta! :P Bolje da si odgovorio u stihu, kao ja tebi!Quote:
Originally Posted by pahuljasti_dvometrash
Vas dvojica ste zajedno vozili? A ja se čudio što je ferrari onako spor ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance!
To sto tebi treba da se detaljise da bi shvatio neke stvari je tvoj problem ne moj, sto cu ti ja sto nisi toliko pametan. Tu nije potrebna neka velika pamet, nivo prvog osnovne da umijes da citas i pises, to je sve.Quote:
Originally Posted by pahuljasti_dvometrash
Neka si inspektor iz mupa, tebe necu da se pravdam, kad evo i sami vozaci F1 kazu da su pravila unistila Ferrari.
A sto se tice drzanja rijeci, ti nemas kome ista da prica. Fabiji si opsovao majku i rekao da neces postovat mjesec dana i nisi ispostovao svoje obecanje. Toliko o tome da si covjek od rijeci. Pocinut od men? Ja nisma spodoba kao ti da mora da se odmara od mene.
Momci, izi izi......
A Pahuljasti mi je rekao da njegovi drugovi, tj. navijachi MC Larena ne dolaze na forum zbog Fabie_Elegance?
Toliko je postala "naporna" ova sezona za pratit:
Zlatilo se ove dosadne sezone od ranije kad je sa razlogom dominirao jedan tim (jednostavno puno brze auto)! Ovo sad shto gledamo je tuzno Alonso ima 5 pobjeda od kojih je 3 posle Kimijevih malera (imola, luxem. i franc.)(one na pochetku svaka chast) a josh i ovo u britan. je stvarno preqrchilo!
I rekao sam ranije da ce sezona biti slichna onoj iz '98 - koliko malera McLaren bude imao toliko ce biti daleko titulama (dzabe mu sva brzina)(fereari je pobjedjivao praktichno koliko je McLaren crkavao)!
A ove sezone nisu samo problemi u pouzdanosti nego stvarno maleri (josh da se ponovi ono kad je frearija spasio Betmen 2000 u njemachkoj)
Alonso ce samo pokushavati da hvata kolko tolko bodova (ovo odvratno bodovanje) i bice shampion koji je na 80% trka bio sporiji od konkurenta za titulu)!
A to da je teshko bilo preteci alonsa na imoli to pitajte Montoju! :)
A sto se tice stava da su ferariju jedini porblem gume, pa ima li iko bolji da te demantuje negi Shumi licno, u ovonedjeljnom intervjuu datom Andrew Bensonu
za BBC Sport:
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Schumacher said the car did not feel bad to drive but that it was not fast enough.
"The handling was not the problem, there was just no grip."
Many F1 observers believe Ferrari's problems are caused by their Bridgestone tyres, which are considered to be less competitive than the Michelins used by the other top teams.
The car, most believe, is among the best.
But Schumacher blamed Ferrari's decision to introduce their new car after the start of the season.
ovo su njegove rijechi!
Its debut was brought forward to the third Grand Prix, but that led to reliability problems which further hampered the team.
"We were a bit late in development at the start of the year and then we had to delay the development of the car because we had reliability issues," Schumacher said.
"So there is still a bit lacking in areas where normally that would not be the case."
Ferrari technical director Ross Brawn said the team did not yet fully understand why they were so much slower than the pace-setting McLaren and Renault.
ovo cisto za one koji su 100% ubijedjeni da je svima jasno da su gume jedini problem
But he said he believed it was due to a combination of two things.
First, he said, McLaren and Renault had been more effective at making the most of the new rules that were introduced this year.
These include aerodynamic restrictions and using only one set of tyres for the entire race.
And he said Bridgestone's ability to develop its tyres alongside the new rules was being hindered because only Ferrari were able to develop them.
Michelin, by contrast, has data from several teams.
"There is an element that we are the only prime customer of Bridgestone," Brawn said.
"It is a sensitive and controversial subject and people will say, perhaps quite rightly, that that's your own fault.
Naravno! Trazili su ekskluzivu, da se gume razvijaju specijalno za njihov bolid, ok su ostali timovi zapostavljani, doshao je Michelin, i posle nekoliko godina postao itekako konkurentan!
"But when you have such a substantial change in the tyre regulations, there is a steep learning curve and Bridgestone have one partner contributing to the learning curve.
"Michelin and their teams have the benefit of a group effort.
"We were wrong-footed by the regulations and other teams have done a better job."
text je prenesen integralno! Dakle, niko ne kaze da gume nisu problem, al daleko od toga da su jedini.
Kao sto sam i ocekivao, Mozli hoce da se rijeshi Michelina vec naredne godine, cisto da bi napakostio Ferariju, jer ga bas mnogo mnogo mrzi, pa hoce da svi timovi imaju vrhunski konkurentne Bridge gume :P
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Formula One's see-sawing rules could be set for more changes in 2006.
It seems a single-tyre formula is being considered for next year, probably leaving Michelin out in the cold.
Following the fiasco at the US Grand Prix, that might be greeted with a certain amount of relief in some quarters, but it is not necessarily a good thing.
With all cars on the same tyres, any team who has opened up an advantage would keep it with little prospect of a quick change.
Hercules i Pahuljasti:
Ovo je zadnji put, necu vishe da vidim takve postove, za to imate Private. Molim vas postujte kao ljudi. Ovo nije topic za takve priche....
Pahuljasti, tvoje je da editujesh tvoj Signature i da ne spadash u takve rasprave sa Herculesom. Hercules, necu vishe da vidim takve postove, stvarno ne mogu vishe da editujem. Doshli ste mi na vrh glave.
Pozdrav!
Todt: fali nam gripa!
http://f1.racing-live.com/en/index.html
Danas sam slushao jednog momka koji analizira Formulu jedan. On tvrdi da broj navijacha je smanjen za 25$ samo zbog proshlogodishnje dosade. Ferrari proshle godine je bio dominantan, kad bi bio i ove godine broj navijacha bi bio josh manji. On kazhe da trenutno publika je zadovoljna, trke nisu dosadne, josh se ne zna ko ce bit shampion. Ferrari je dominirao 4 godine zaredom, zar nije to dosadno? Navijachi drzhe Formulu 1, bez njih na ne postoji a F1 polako se vrati tamo gdje je bila krajem 20 vijeka. 2000 godine FIA je pomagala Ferrariju da postane shampion, 2001, 2002 nije bilo potrebno, 2003 malo, 2004 nimalo a za ovogodishnji neuspjeh glavni krivac je Max Mosley koji ne daje Ferrariju da bude dominantan jer tako bi izgubio sve.
Mislim da tu ima istine.
Tesko da je on mogao uticati na razvoj bolida i slicne stvari vezano za Ferari.Moguce prepreke su druge prirode,ali da oni imaju najachi bolid,nema toga "pobijesnjelog" Max-a koji bi im mogao stati na put.Inache,opste je poznato da je Ferari najuticajniji tim od svih,tako da to moze biti jedan dio priche,ali nikako objasnjenje za to sto im se dogadja ove godine.Jednostavno,ne mozesh da budesh uvijek najbolji,sto ne znachi da sledece godine nece biti ponovo.Nadam se samo da u tom slucaju objasnjenje nece biti,da je Max Mosley zavolio Ferari,pa su opet postali mocni...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance!
Mozhda on ne daje da Ferrari pobjedjuje ove godine!
pa ko bi vise bio za no ja, al u 100 eura da ce Herk da prokomentarise i ovaj post??? :) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance!
pa coek vam je vanredno odobrio zabranjene grijace za gume, a i ucinio sve da imate bar 1 pobjedu, onu u USA. Da ne pominjemo Concorde Agreement, po kojem je Ferari povlascen tim u sezonama posle 2007-me! itd itd itdQuote:
Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance!
Niko ne spominje "boost button"!!!
Ja nisam chuo za to, shta je to?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShAq_Ct
Postojale bi akumulacione ćelije koje bi sakupljale toplotu sa kocnica. Kada vozac dodje u poziciji prestizanja, pritisne to dugme, i dobije jos 50-60KS na kratko vrijeme,mozda jedno 10-ak sekundi.Ali mi je to malo debilno,jer ako npr. krene kimi da pretekne alonsa i pritisne boost button, i taman ga pretekne kad alonso pritiska boost button.I jos FIA oce da smanji troskove a mozete mislit koliko bi sredstava trebalo izdvojiti za te akumulacione celije i to dugme,to bi moralo da se razvija dosta vremena,pa bi ga trebalo uklopiti u bolid,da ne narusava aerodinamiku,ne povecava tezinu,pa kocnice koje bi to sve izdrzale...
Nisi bas najbolje objasnio,al ajd samo da kazem da te "celije" ne akumuliraju energiju od toplote, vec inercije pri kocenju. Inace,mclaren je to razvijao jos 98me,ali FIA zabranila,pa se sad sjetili :razz:
Ooooo, znate li zashto, za to shto fanovi F1 zhele da vide more pases!
Josh da znam jesi li ozbiljan ili se zezash,pa bih ti i odgovorio,ovako...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance!
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Originally Posted by zocko
2000 Ferrari je bio u qrcu i Max je rekao: FERRARI OVE GODINE MORA DA BUDE SHAMPION - Ferrari je dominirao 4 godine, posle 4 godine F1 je posao najdosadniji sport samo zbog Ferrarijeve dominacije pa reko mozhda.....
evo i mene posle par dana.....malo bio nervozan razvojem situiacije posle silverstone.....jer definitivno bolid ferarija nije problem......jer posle dobrog nastupa u bahreinu(nazalost nezavrsenog) i imoli....pa onda jos par trka posle a onda odjednom pad ali sve se desava uporedo sa poboljsanjima koja se desavaju u kvalifikacijama......znaci bolje kvalifikacije losija trka.....tesko da moze biti sto drugo osim guma......i iskreno neka vrate one gume iz imole ili bahreina jer ipak je bolje krenut i posle 10og mjesta pa se boriti tokom trke za vrh nego obrnuto :)
eto ferari definitivno moze da se oprosti makar od jedne titule a i od druge akop nesto ne urade i to na sledecoj trci....nadam se da ce ovu pauzu od dvije nedelje iskoristit kako treba.....i ono sto mi ostaje da se nadam je da ce makar KIMI osvojiti titulu ove sezone....i da ipak to nece biti reno.....
Jean Todt : “I said yesterday that we could expect a difficult race and that getting both our cars home in the points was our only realistic target. Unfortunately, that is how things turned out. We are not capable of matching the pace of the leaders and the final result is a reasonably accurate reflection of the current pecking order here at Silverstone today. The only satisfying point to take away from here is the level of reliability we demonstrated this afternoon.”
Michael Schumacher : “Of course, I cannot be happy to have finished sixth, especially looking at my lap times in the race. Clearly, we are simply not fast enough at the moment. If I had not been delayed by Trulli, I might have been able to fight with Button, but I am not keen on using the word “if” as an excuse. If you compare our performance from the two North American races to these last two, we appear to be going backwards instead of forwards. We are not up to the level of our competitors. I am still looking forward to my home race in Hockenheim, but I wish I could promise the fans there a bit more than this.”
Rubens Barrichello : “This was quite a difficult race. Basically, we did not have the pace which we thought we might have. I made a good start and I knew I had to pass Trulli at this point if my race was going to go to plan. It was all going pretty smoothly apart from the fact I was held up by Button which cost me time. This meant that the three stop strategy I had adopted did not work out the way it should have done. I had some brake problems, as at Magny-Cours. But seeing how the race evolved, I don’t think I could have done much better.”
Ross Brawn : “Obviously this was a disappointing race. We went through practice and qualifying hoping that it would all come together in the race, but once again today, it was difficult. Our drivers were reasonably happy with their cars, it’s just that they simply lacked overall pace. There were no particular problems, although there were a couple of stages when we got held up, including the early part when Michael got delayed by Trulli, but I am not sure that we could have done better.”
“Clearly, we had a big drop in performance during the race today because we were missing grip,” explained Todt, “ and if you take a few races ago, it’s our competitors who had a drop in performance during the race, and we were very strong.”
Todt explained “we mainly lack grip. It’s very difficult to judge clearly for us where it comes from. It’s not just the aerodynamics, because if it was only the aerodynamics, we would never be able to do a quick time, like we did on Friday. Then we are with the others, same level of fuel, and we are at the same speed. And then we dropped back. But for the other teams, it’s easier to identify where the problem is, because there are several teams in the same situation. With all respect to Jordan and Minardi, it’s very difficult for us to have a good comparison with them. So for that reason, it’s up to us, together with Bridgestone to try to get the best analysis as possible.”
evo na www.fia.com imate mogucnost da glasate za novi format kvalifikacija........tj jedan od ova dva dolje....mada i jedan i drugi imaju mana.......ja bih glasao za ovaj prvi ali ipak mi se ne svidja sabiranje vremena iz dva dijela kvalifikacija a ovaj drugi mi nesto bezveze zbog eliminisanja 10 vozaca u prvih 30min
Proposal 1:
- 60-minute session, split into two 25-minute ‘halves’ with a 10-minute break.
- drivers may run as many laps as they wish, but must set a time in each half.
- each driver’s best times from the first half is added to his best time from the second half to produce a final time to determine the grid.
- no fuel restrictions - cars may refuel during and after the session.
Proposal 2:
- 60-minute session.
- after 15 minutes, the five slowest cars must retire from the session and will qualify 16th to 20th on the grid.
- after a further 15 minutes, the five cars slowest during that period (times cannot be carried over from the first 15 minutes) must also retire from the session. They will qualify 11th to 15th on the grid.
- for the final 30 minutes the remaining 10 cars will compete for first to tenth place on the grid, based on the best times set in that period (times cannot be carried over from the first 30 minutes).
- drivers may run as many laps as they wish in each period.
- no fuel restrictions - cars may refuel during and after the session.
Ako Bog da...Quote:
Originally Posted by E_K_V
Timovi na mchelin nece biti kaznjeni zbog s***a u Indianapolisu .
normalna stvar........bilo sto drugo bi bilo pogubno za f1.....Quote:
Originally Posted by ShAq_Ct
Pa da, to je normalno.