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Todt: fali nam gripa!


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Danas sam slushao jednog momka koji analizira Formulu jedan. On tvrdi da broj navijacha je smanjen za 25$ samo zbog proshlogodishnje dosade. Ferrari proshle godine je bio dominantan, kad bi bio i ove godine broj navijacha bi bio josh manji. On kazhe da trenutno publika je zadovoljna, trke nisu dosadne, josh se ne zna ko ce bit shampion. Ferrari je dominirao 4 godine zaredom, zar nije to dosadno? Navijachi drzhe Formulu 1, bez njih na ne postoji a F1 polako se vrati tamo gdje je bila krajem 20 vijeka. 2000 godine FIA je pomagala Ferrariju da postane shampion, 2001, 2002 nije bilo potrebno, 2003 malo, 2004 nimalo a za ovogodishnji neuspjeh glavni krivac je Max Mosley koji ne daje Ferrariju da bude dominantan jer tako bi izgubio sve.

Mislim da tu ima istine.

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Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance!

Todt: fali nam gripa!


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Danas sam slushao jednog momka koji analizira Formulu jedan. On tvrdi da broj navijacha je smanjen za 25$ samo zbog proshlogodishnje dosade. Ferrari proshle godine je bio dominantan, kad bi bio i ove godine broj navijacha bi bio josh manji. On kazhe da trenutno publika je zadovoljna, trke nisu dosadne, josh se ne zna ko ce bit shampion. Ferrari je dominirao 4 godine zaredom, zar nije to dosadno? Navijachi drzhe Formulu 1, bez njih na ne postoji a F1 polako se vrati tamo gdje je bila krajem 20 vijeka. 2000 godine FIA je pomagala Ferrariju da postane shampion, 2001, 2002 nije bilo potrebno, 2003 malo, 2004 nimalo a za ovogodishnji neuspjeh glavni krivac je Max Mosley koji ne daje Ferrariju da bude dominantan jer tako bi izgubio sve.

Mislim da tu ima istine.

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Tesko da je on mogao uticati na razvoj bolida i slicne stvari vezano za Ferari.Moguce prepreke su druge prirode,ali da oni imaju najachi bolid,nema toga "pobijesnjelog" Max-a koji bi im mogao stati na put.Inache,opste je poznato da je Ferari najuticajniji tim od svih,tako da to moze biti jedan dio priche,ali nikako objasnjenje za to sto im se dogadja ove godine.Jednostavno,ne mozesh da budesh uvijek najbolji,sto ne znachi da sledece godine nece biti ponovo.Nadam se samo da u tom slucaju objasnjenje nece biti,da je Max Mosley zavolio Ferari,pa su opet postali mocni...

Mozhda on ne daje da Ferrari pobjedjuje ove godine!

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Hercules i Pahuljasti:

Ovo je zadnji put, necu vishe da vidim takve postove, za to imate Private. Molim vas postujte kao ljudi. Ovo nije topic za takve priche....

Pahuljasti, tvoje je da editujesh tvoj Signature i da ne spadash u takve rasprave sa Herculesom. Hercules, necu vishe da vidim takve postove, stvarno ne mogu vishe da editujem. Doshli ste mi na vrh glave.



Pozdrav!

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pa ko bi vise bio za no ja, al u 100 eura da ce Herk da prokomentarise i ovaj post??? :) :)

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Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance!

Mozhda on ne daje da Ferrari pobjedjuje ove godine!

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pa coek vam je vanredno odobrio zabranjene grijace za gume, a i ucinio sve da imate bar 1 pobjedu, onu u USA. Da ne pominjemo Concorde Agreement, po kojem je Ferari povlascen tim u sezonama posle 2007-me! itd itd itd

Niko ne spominje "boost button"!!!

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Originally Posted by ShAq_Ct

Niko ne spominje "boost button"!!!

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Ja nisam chuo za to, shta je to?

Postojale bi akumulacione ćelije koje bi sakupljale toplotu sa kocnica. Kada vozac dodje u poziciji prestizanja, pritisne to dugme, i dobije jos 50-60KS na kratko vrijeme,mozda jedno 10-ak sekundi.Ali mi je to malo debilno,jer ako npr. krene kimi da pretekne alonsa i pritisne boost button, i taman ga pretekne kad alonso pritiska boost button.I jos FIA oce da smanji troskove a mozete mislit koliko bi sredstava trebalo izdvojiti za te akumulacione celije i to dugme,to bi moralo da se razvija dosta vremena,pa bi ga trebalo uklopiti u bolid,da ne narusava aerodinamiku,ne povecava tezinu,pa kocnice koje bi to sve izdrzale...

Nisi bas najbolje objasnio,al ajd samo da kazem da te "celije" ne akumuliraju energiju od toplote, vec inercije pri kocenju. Inace,mclaren je to razvijao jos 98me,ali FIA zabranila,pa se sad sjetili :razz:

Ooooo, znate li zashto, za to shto fanovi F1 zhele da vide more pases!

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Originally Posted by Fabia_Elegance!

Mozhda on ne daje da Ferrari pobjedjuje ove godine!

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Josh da znam jesi li ozbiljan ili se zezash,pa bih ti i odgovorio,ovako...

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Josh da znam jesi li ozbiljan ili se zezash,pa bih ti i odgovorio,ovako...

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2000 Ferrari je bio u qrcu i Max je rekao: FERRARI OVE GODINE MORA DA BUDE SHAMPION - Ferrari je dominirao 4 godine, posle 4 godine F1 je posao najdosadniji sport samo zbog Ferrarijeve dominacije pa reko mozhda.....

evo i mene posle par dana.....malo bio nervozan razvojem situiacije posle silverstone.....jer definitivno bolid ferarija nije problem......jer posle dobrog nastupa u bahreinu(nazalost nezavrsenog) i imoli....pa onda jos par trka posle a onda odjednom pad ali sve se desava uporedo sa poboljsanjima koja se desavaju u kvalifikacijama......znaci bolje kvalifikacije losija trka.....tesko da moze biti sto drugo osim guma......i iskreno neka vrate one gume iz imole ili bahreina jer ipak je bolje krenut i posle 10og mjesta pa se boriti tokom trke za vrh nego obrnuto :)

eto ferari definitivno moze da se oprosti makar od jedne titule a i od druge akop nesto ne urade i to na sledecoj trci....nadam se da ce ovu pauzu od dvije nedelje iskoristit kako treba.....i ono sto mi ostaje da se nadam je da ce makar KIMI osvojiti titulu ove sezone....i da ipak to nece biti reno.....

Jean Todt : “I said yesterday that we could expect a difficult race and that getting both our cars home in the points was our only realistic target. Unfortunately, that is how things turned out. We are not capable of matching the pace of the leaders and the final result is a reasonably accurate reflection of the current pecking order here at Silverstone today. The only satisfying point to take away from here is the level of reliability we demonstrated this afternoon.”

Michael Schumacher : “Of course, I cannot be happy to have finished sixth, especially looking at my lap times in the race. Clearly, we are simply not fast enough at the moment. If I had not been delayed by Trulli, I might have been able to fight with Button, but I am not keen on using the word “if” as an excuse. If you compare our performance from the two North American races to these last two, we appear to be going backwards instead of forwards. We are not up to the level of our competitors. I am still looking forward to my home race in Hockenheim, but I wish I could promise the fans there a bit more than this.”

Rubens Barrichello : “This was quite a difficult race. Basically, we did not have the pace which we thought we might have. I made a good start and I knew I had to pass Trulli at this point if my race was going to go to plan. It was all going pretty smoothly apart from the fact I was held up by Button which cost me time. This meant that the three stop strategy I had adopted did not work out the way it should have done. I had some brake problems, as at Magny-Cours. But seeing how the race evolved, I don’t think I could have done much better.”

Ross Brawn : “Obviously this was a disappointing race. We went through practice and qualifying hoping that it would all come together in the race, but once again today, it was difficult. Our drivers were reasonably happy with their cars, it’s just that they simply lacked overall pace. There were no particular problems, although there were a couple of stages when we got held up, including the early part when Michael got delayed by Trulli, but I am not sure that we could have done better.”

“Clearly, we had a big drop in performance during the race today because we were missing grip,” explained Todt, “ and if you take a few races ago, it’s our competitors who had a drop in performance during the race, and we were very strong.”

Todt explained “we mainly lack grip. It’s very difficult to judge clearly for us where it comes from. It’s not just the aerodynamics, because if it was only the aerodynamics, we would never be able to do a quick time, like we did on Friday. Then we are with the others, same level of fuel, and we are at the same speed. And then we dropped back. But for the other teams, it’s easier to identify where the problem is, because there are several teams in the same situation. With all respect to Jordan and Minardi, it’s very difficult for us to have a good comparison with them. So for that reason, it’s up to us, together with Bridgestone to try to get the best analysis as possible.”

evo na www.fia.com imate mogucnost da glasate za novi format kvalifikacija........tj jedan od ova dva dolje....mada i jedan i drugi imaju mana.......ja bih glasao za ovaj prvi ali ipak mi se ne svidja sabiranje vremena iz dva dijela kvalifikacija a ovaj drugi mi nesto bezveze zbog eliminisanja 10 vozaca u prvih 30min

Proposal 1:
- 60-minute session, split into two 25-minute ‘halves’ with a 10-minute break.
- drivers may run as many laps as they wish, but must set a time in each half.
- each driver’s best times from the first half is added to his best time from the second half to produce a final time to determine the grid.
- no fuel restrictions - cars may refuel during and after the session.

Proposal 2:
- 60-minute session.
- after 15 minutes, the five slowest cars must retire from the session and will qualify 16th to 20th on the grid.
- after a further 15 minutes, the five cars slowest during that period (times cannot be carried over from the first 15 minutes) must also retire from the session. They will qualify 11th to 15th on the grid.
- for the final 30 minutes the remaining 10 cars will compete for first to tenth place on the grid, based on the best times set in that period (times cannot be carried over from the first 30 minutes).
- drivers may run as many laps as they wish in each period.
- no fuel restrictions - cars may refuel during and after the session.

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Originally Posted by E_K_V

.....i ono sto mi ostaje da se nadam je da ce makar KIMI osvojiti titulu ove sezone....i da ipak to nece biti reno.....

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Ako Bog da...

Timovi na mchelin nece biti kaznjeni zbog s***a u Indianapolisu .

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Originally Posted by ShAq_Ct

Timovi na mchelin nece biti kaznjeni zbog s***a u Indianapolisu .

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normalna stvar........bilo sto drugo bi bilo pogubno za f1.....

Pa da, to je normalno.

Kvalifikacije samo neka budu 60 minuta pa cemo lako :D

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Originally Posted by E_K_V

evo i mene posle par dana.....malo bio nervozan razvojem situiacije posle silverstone.....jer definitivno bolid ferarija nije problem......jer posle dobrog nastupa u bahreinu(nazalost nezavrsenog) i imoli....pa onda jos par trka posle a onda odjednom pad ali sve se desava uporedo sa poboljsanjima koja se desavaju u kvalifikacijama......znaci bolje kvalifikacije losija trka.....tesko da moze biti sto drugo osim guma......i iskreno neka vrate one gume iz imole ili bahreina jer ipak je bolje krenut i posle 10og mjesta pa se boriti tokom trke za vrh nego obrnuto :)

eto ferari definitivno moze da se oprosti makar od jedne titule a i od druge akop nesto ne urade i to na sledecoj trci....nadam se da ce ovu pauzu od dvije nedelje iskoristit kako treba.....i ono sto mi ostaje da se nadam je da ce makar KIMI osvojiti titulu ove sezone....i da ipak to nece biti reno.....

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cekaj, i pored intervjua koji sam ja postovao (a intervju je sa nisakim drugim do Schumijem!) i izjava koje si ti sam postovao:

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Todt explained “we mainly lack grip. It’s very difficult to judge clearly for us where it comes from. It’s not just the aerodynamics, because if it was only the aerodynamics, we would never be able to do a quick time, like we did on Friday.

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Ako su samo gume problem (a udaviste sa tom teorijom, ozbiljno!), zasto kojeg djavola Todt kaze da "problem ne lezi samo u aerodinamici" i da "nije jasno koji je tacan uzrok problema"?? Da nije i tvoj stav, ko nekih odje, da, kad bi bio vracen stari sistem kvalifikacija i Ferrari bio na Michelinu, dominirali kao i sezone 2004?? :)

Pushiona.....

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Originally Posted by pahuljasti_dvometrash

cekaj, i pored intervjua koji sam ja postovao (a intervju je sa nisakim drugim do Schumijem!) i izjava koje si ti sam postovao:



Ako su samo gume problem (a udaviste sa tom teorijom, ozbiljno!), zasto kojeg djavola Todt kaze da "problem ne lezi samo u aerodinamici" i da "nije jasno koji je tacan uzrok problema"?? Da nije i tvoj stav, ko nekih odje, da, kad bi bio vracen stari sistem kvalifikacija i Ferrari bio na Michelinu, dominirali kao i sezone 2004?? :)

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ne, sistem je jednak za sve......sad sto michelin ima prednost da radi sa vise timova to je druga stvar i jasno je da imaju prednost u svakom slucaju....nedostatak gripa ne mozes objasnit losim motorom ili necim slicno.....ili aerodinamikom ako iz ferarija kazu da ona nije problem jedino sto meni pada na pamet su gume....ako grijesim neka me neko ispravi....ferari je pokazao koliko je jak na prve 4 trke sa novim bolidom..... posle toga se prave kompromisi kako napraviti dobar rezultat u kvalifikacijama i nakon toga u trci....a i ponavlja se se 2003 kad je ferari imao velikih problema na ljetnjim trkama u evropi...i onda da kazes da nisu gume problem....ne znam nisam pametan ako je nesto drugo problem.....jer nemaju problema sa pouzdanoscu...nisu spori.....(vidjelo se dok je kimi pratio sumahera)......

If one word could sum up Ferrari's '05 crisis, it would be: 'tyres'. That clear cut assessment, though, is not fair, according to Michelin clad McLaren's 'F1 CEO' Martin Whitmarsh.