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Malo hronološki gledano naša vlada je priznala pobunjenike kao legitimne predstavnike vlasti u Siriji da bi posle članka u novinama o tome oni rekli da nisu priznali ISIL nego modernu opoziciju ...
Za one koji nisu upućeni vlada Crne Gore je priznala ove kao legitimnu izvršnu vlast
https://twitter.com/AhmadAlkhtiib/st...644544/video/1
ps: taman su isti ako bi pošteno pričali
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Joint Statement by the Foreign Ministers of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Russian Federation and the Republic of Turkey on agreed steps to revitalize the political process to end the Syrian conflict, Moscow, 20 December 2016
The Ministers of Foreign Affairs of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Russian Federation and the Republic of Turkey, meeting in Moscow on 20 December 2016, agreed on the following.
- Iran, Russia and Turkey reiterate their full respect for sovereignty, independence, unity and territorial integrity of the Syrian Arab Republic as multi-ethnic, multi-religious, non-sectarian, democratic and secular state.
- Iran, Russia and Turkey are convinced that there is no military solution to the Syrian conflict. They recognize the essential role of the United Nations in the efforts to resolve this crisis in accordance with UNSC resolution 2254. The Ministers also take note of the decisions of the International Syria Support Croup (ISSG). They urge all members of the international community to cooperate in good faith in order to remove the obstacles on the way to implement the agreements contained in these documents.
- Iran, Russia and Turkey welcome joint efforts in Eastern Aleppo allowing for voluntary evacuation of civilians and organized departure of armed opposition. The Ministers also welcome partial evacuation of civilians from Fuaa, Kafraia, Zabadani and Madaya. They commit to ensure the completion of the process without interruption and in a safe and secure manner. The Ministers express their gratitude to the representatives of ICRC and WHO for their assistance in conduction of the evacuation.
- The Ministers agree on the importance of expanding ceasefire, unhindered humanitarian assistance and free movement of civilians throughout the country.
- Iran, Russia and Turkey express their readiness to facilitate and become the guarantors of the prospective agreement, being negotiated, between the Syrian Government and the opposition. They invited all other countries with the influence on the situation on the ground to do the same.
- They strongly believe that this Agreement will be instrumental to create the necessary momentum for the resumption of the political process in Syria in accordance with the UNSC resolution 2254.
- The Ministers take note of the kind offer of the President of Kazakhstan to host relevant meetings in Astana.
- Iran, Russia and Turkey reiterate their determination to fight jointly against ISIL/DAESH and Al-Nusra and to separate from them armed opposition groups.
"Anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac"
Last edited by VanjaTheMan; 21-12-16 at 13:52.
Niko ne komentarise ovo spaljivanje turskih vojnika. Je li vama ono fejk?
I bezbjedonosni propusti, i diplomatija, i zone uticaja... sve to, i još ponešto kada se ispreplete dobiju se snimci na koje malo ko može ostat imun! Što gnusnije to efektnije. Nažalost, svi mi konzumenti medija tome svjedočimo, što nas u jednu ruku čini i taocima...
Zelim vam samo jedno, a to su dvije stvari: "rad, red i disciplinu".
Eto vidis. Ista stvar kao kad su teoreticari zavjere rekli da je napad na Carli Hebdo bio laziran zato sto im se ubistvo policajca na ulici ne uklapa u ono sto su vidjeli u filmovima. Ne mogu nikako filmske scene da djeluju uvjerljivije niti mozes da ih koristis kao neki benchmark uvjerljivosti osim u poredjenju sa drugim filmovima. Zasto bi lazirali spaljivanje? Mislis da je monstruoznim ubicama koji vec nekoliko godina rade iste stvari lakse da montiraju spaljivanje nego da spale par ljudi? Mislis li da im je stalo? Mislis li da nisu stvarno clanovi teroristicke organizacije nego neki studenti kinematografije specijalizovani za specijalne efekte? Mozda rade na diplomskom!
Last edited by VanjaTheMan; 24-12-16 at 10:11.
Ma, kad su mogli ambasadora Rusije da roknu, zasto ne bi neka dva vojnika.. Ali se postavlja pitanje kome sve to najvise odgovara? Ja mislim da Putin posle ovih ludosti ima odrijesene ruke..
Kome najvise odgovara? Ljudima koji vole da ubijaju i koji to uspjesno rade godinama. To nisu normalni mozgovi koje civilizovani covjek moze u potpunosti da shvati. Njima zivot nema nikakvu vrijednost. Njihov nacin zivota nije uopste nalik nasem. Njihove vrijednosti nemaju dodirnih tacaka sa nasim. Skoro da su vanzemaljci kad se uporede sa prosjecnim covjekom sa ovih prostora. Ti pokusavas da racionalizujes njihove odluke iz sopstvene perspektive, jer njihovu nisi cak ni u stanju da zamislis pa ti vise smisla ima da montiraju tako nesto. To je razumljivo, ali ne budi naivan. Vidis kako je tvoja perspektiva obojena Holivudom. Sigurno nisi razmisljao o tome prije ovih desavanja. Ali samo zato sto ne mozes da shvatis da neko moze takve stvari da radi van filmova, ne znaci da se ne desavaju. Ljudi na tim prostorima se ubijaju na iste i gore nacine svakodnevno poslednjih par decenija. Samo sto sad posjeduju tehnologiju kojom mogu da podijele radosti svoje svakodnevice sa nama.
Last edited by VanjaTheMan; 24-12-16 at 10:19.
Meni samo nije jasno zasto gledate takve snimke. Znate dobro da necete nista lijepo vidjeti na njima.
Izjava (bivšeg) pobunjenika nakon što su on i družina odlučili da polože oružje. Neđe u blizini Damaska.
Neko je bio ljubazan da napravi transkript na engleskom:
Here are the people, they didn't leave for food or to give a better picture of the state, They left because they want reconciliation between Syrians.All These people left for the future of Syria. Picture him, and picture me, I am a Free Army and he's a Regime army soldier. [Do you still refer to yourself as Free Army?] no now we are groups to conciliation. The days of Free army and revolution and whatever are gone, they didn't help anybody, not us or them. Now we are groups to help fix the country, we want to move forward. If we want to keep moving backwards, we will hit the wall.
Move forward to know how to see infront of you, because the country has been gone between a oppostion and regime and this and that, and Israel came in between us. Since when does Qatar, Saudi, and Turkey love you? Now we understand that they are all sitting outside and they are arming us to fight each other.
Iran, Russia, America, Saudi, Qatar, we are all fight with their weapons for them. Countries support sides and we are fighting each other. I am from Syria, he's from Syria [SAA soldier], why are we fighting each other? Let them man up and the countries fight each other if they hate each other that much. Russia is a power, America is a power, Iran is a power, Saudi is a power and they got weapons. Why don't they fight? But they arm us and let us fight each other.
We don't want, we want to look forward, we want to see our country. If we keep thinking of the money and dollar, it wouldn't benefit us. You get all the money, and would die with one bullet, money doesn't benefit you. What benefits you is your land, your country. Stay with God, stay with your country, your diginity.
We are all one hand, against the Takfir and terrorism. Against ISIS and Nusra and all those want to attack Syria, all those who want to attack someone who is Syrian.
In the end we are all brothers, and in the end we are destined to return to each other.
"Anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac"
Evo Erdogan reče da Amerika pruža podršku ISIL-u i da oni imaju dokaze za takve tvrdnje !!! Kad to kaže predsjednik države koja je jedna od prvih NATO članica onda definitivno ima težinu a to opet znači da je proces dokazivanja upravo počeo ...
deuscroix
To se pretpostavljalo od samog starta. Ali tesko da se Erdoganu moze bilo sta vjerovati. Direktno je profitirao od saradnje sa ISIL-om i kad mu je odgovaralo nije prezao ni od obaranja ruskih aviona. A sad je sa Rusima. Amerika mu smeta jer je Gulen u Americi. I ko zna kakve se jos stvari desavaju iza scene za koje narod nikad (ili bar ne u sledecih par decenija) nece saznati.
Bogomi ja mislim da ako se dokaže povezanost bilo koje USA službe sa organizacijom ISIL i trošenje novca poreskih obaveznika ( uz nezamislivo srozavanje ugleda koji su stvarali decenijama u svijetu ) neko će morati da debelo odgovara !!! Jeste da su oni poznati po tome da štite svoje državljane po svijetu isto se može reći da su prilično okrutni prema onima koji zloupotrijebe položaj i naštete ugledu države ali da ne prejudiciramo stvari i možda je sve to samo izvučeno iz konteksta priče da su svi koji ratuju osim regularne SAA ( ili njihovi saveznici ) po definiciji teroristi !!!
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"Anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac"
Sirijska vojska stigla do Kurda i tako blokirala prolaz Turcima, sad nemaju đe bez da napadnu Kurde ili SAA
Last edited by chucknorris; 27-02-17 at 18:39.
Priroda je lijepa, al' zajebano društvo.
Manbidž, grad na koji se Erdogan nameračio, i Rusi i Amerikanci pomažu Kurdima da zadrže tu provinciju
Priroda je lijepa, al' zajebano društvo.
http://www.rudaw.net/mobile/english/world/07032017
Istorijski sastanak koji nosi nevjerovatnu tezinu. Ekvivalent nekim iz dva svetska rata.
Kurdi na istočnom ulazu u grad Raka.
Kako loš dan, prije svega politički, za sirijsku vladu i Rusiju. Prema nekim navodima,zahvaljujući čemu (očito) je započela velika ofanziva na Hamu.
Kao rezultat toga, tzv. Tigrovi su prinuđeni da prekinu ofanzivu u istočnoj provinciji Alepo da bi pojačali front u Hami, čime je zaustavljen napredak sirijske vojske prema gradovima Tabqa i Raqqa.
U isto vrijeme, američke specijalne jedinice prelaze jezero Assad, zauzimaju autoput Alepo-Tabqa i istovremeno unaprijed blokiraju dalji napredak sirijske vojske prema Tabqa avio bazi.
Kakav potez i kakav povratak Amera na scenu!
"Anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac"
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