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    Default Naš Bog je jedan

    U potrazi za Istinom u Religiji sam prevalio veliki put. Na tom putu sam nailazio na one koji su mi osmjeh na licu izazvali i koje sam pozelio da od srece zagrlim do onih iz cijih je srca izlazilo sve sto bih okarakterisao kao neznanje i mrznja prema svemu nepoznatom.

    Od muslimana, koji negiraju Proroke i poslanike, do hriscana kojima matematika nije jaca strana, jevreja koji su doista zalutali daleko, do hindusa koji su se zabrojali. Takvih masu mozesh da nadjesh. Opet oni kojih je manji broj njih nadjoh da im je Bog grudi proshirio i prirodu takvu dao da nisu gledali ko je ko no su ljude zaista voljeli i njih ima medju svima njima.

    Molio sam se sa svima njima, ali tek kad sam poslusha dobro kome se mole.

    Uistinu svi su pozvati, a malo ih je odazvatih.





    Moze bit da imate slicno iskustvo kao ja. Razlicito ne sumnjam. Svejedno slobodni ste prokomentarisati.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ego_and_his_own View Post

    Od muslimana, koji negiraju Proroke i poslanike,.
    Koje?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Israphel View Post
    Koje?
    Jednoga sam cuo prije par dana da isrpavlja Isusa kako nemoze on da zove Boga Ocem i kako je to neprimjereno. A koliko sam ih slusha samo da negiraju Toru i Jevandjelja bez ikakve osnove i baze. A u bosnu ih tek ima svakakvih.
    A neki sto sam prica sa njima iz indije su tek prelazili svaku mjeru.

    A i sam mozesh vidjet koliko ih ima te se oglushujua i oglushivali su se o Ashiname od Muhameda. Ima li samozvane "Islamske Drzave" danas da to postuje, a da ne pricamo o proslosti i Otomanima i Osmanlijama.
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    Samo jedan kume

    Ja znam da juče me je stvorilo
    I znam da danas je danas
    i da sutra stvaram sam...

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    Dva u jedan kao nes kume Bog Bog

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    Autoru teme: mogao si malo vecu sliku nac', mozda bi imalo vise uticaja na pojedine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fidel Castro View Post
    Autoru teme: mogao si malo vecu sliku nac', mozda bi imalo vise uticaja na pojedine

    Pokusavao sam sve da je smanjim sa FB ali su makli opcije koje su bile prije. A lakse je bilo to napravit u css na forumu. Ipak ljudi imaju danas naraznoraznije uredjaje pa bi trebalo da to urade vishe.

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    Daleko si dogurao. Nisi vise djecak. Od vjernika si postao...


    ...fundamentalista. Jesi pustio i bradu? Moras da pustis bradu. Sto duza brada to jaca vjera. To svi znaju.
    Look upon my works ye mighty and this pear...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanjaTheMan View Post
    Daleko si dogurao. Nisi vise djecak. Od vjernika si postao...


    ...fundamentalista. Jesi pustio i bradu? Moras da pustis bradu. Sto duza brada to jaca vjera. To svi znaju.
    Ih kad bi ti samo znao...

    A ja jesam fundamentalista ali intelektualni a ne bradati.

    fun·da·men·tal
    ˌfəndəˈmen(t)əl/
    adjective
    1.
    forming a necessary base or core; of central importance.
    "the protection of fundamental human rights"
    synonyms: basic, underlying, core, foundational, rudimentary, elemental, elementary, basal, root;
    noun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ego_and_his_own View Post

    Ih kad bi ti samo znao...

    A ja jesam fundamentalista ali intelektualni a ne bradati.
    Ko stavi ovo kao grafit u centru grada ima od mene ručak.
    "Vidiš li: svet pun sebe grca -
    Očiju punih, prazna srca."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ego_and_his_own View Post
    Ih kad bi ti samo znao...

    A ja jesam fundamentalista ali intelektualni a ne bradati.
    Dovraga nikada teme ne čitam od početka, šta sve propuštim zbog toga.

    ...



    Duga brado duga kosooooo
    i moj te je đedo nosooooooooo

    onda ide grlenije ponavljanje sa titrajućim zvukom gusala...

    DUGA BRADOOO....


    ....


    Golobradi fundamentalizam? - sa akcentom na intelektualni.

    Nevjerovatna postavka, doduše nekako se nameće ovakav tip definicije sve češće.

    Koja je razlika između bradatog i golobradatog fundamentalizma?


    Što me podsjeti na čuvene 'hitlerovske' brkove, koji su svijevremeno bili tako šik.

    Modernizacija tradicije, znamo da dojčeri vole kosmate i loknaste brkove, sam Hitler ih je svojevremeno nosio,pa ih je kasnije štosovao. Što je dovelo do urbanizacije ideje, napravila se ta razlika, od brkonja do onih sa brčićima. Međutim onako skraćeni su nosili i simboličku poruku da je bio i učesnik ratnih operacija. Morali su ih tako brijati (ako su željeli da ih zadrže) zbog gas maski, što će reći da je bio u rovu i pucao.

    Hitler je u svojoj ratnoj istoriji imao i iskustvo sa bojnim otrovima od kojeg je bio oslijepio, čak su postavljene neke teroije da je to i jedan od psiholoških uzroka za kasnije njegove radnje.
    Jedno jeste veoma poznato, da njegova ratna uloga u WWI je bila veoma bitna u njegovom političkom angažmanu, podizalo je njegov autoritet i tako sticao povjerenje. Sam Himler (isto tip sa brčićima) ga je upravo iz tog razloga bukvalno obožavao. Tako da je rado podsjećao sa svojim štosovanim brčićima.

    Sada da li se takav jedan modni detalj može povezati sa nečim što se ođen nazva golobradim fundamentalistom?

    Koje su razlike u branjenju stavova između golobradih i bradatih ? - fundamentalista , ako je to uopšte i bitno u svemu ovome
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    Evo ga tekst pa recite ima li dijela koji neki nisu prekrishili.

    THE COVENANT OF THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD WITH THE MONKS OF MOUNT SINAI

    The Covenant of the Prophet Muhammad with the Monks of Mount Sinai
    [By the Prophet Muhammad]
    [Translated by John Andrew Morrow in 2013]
    In the Name of Allah, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful.
    (A copy of the manuscript of the covenant [‘ahd] written by Muhammad, the son of ‘Abd Allah, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, to all the Christians.)
    This covenant [kitabun] was written by Muhammad, the son of ‘Abd Allah, the proclaimer and warner [bashiran wa nadhiran], trusted to protect Allah’s creations [wadi‘at Allah fi khalqihi], in order that people may raise no claim [hujjah] against Allah after [the advent of] His Messengers [rusul] for Allah is Almighty, Wise.
    He has written it for the members of his religion [ahl al-millatihi] and to all those who profess the Christian religion in East and West, near or far, Arabs or non-Arabs [‘ajami], known or unknown, as a covenant of protection.
    If anyone breaks the covenant [‘ahd] herein proclaimed, or contravenes or transgresses its commands, he has broken the Covenant of Allah, breaks his bond, makes a mockery of his religion, deserves the curse, whether he is a sultan or another among the believing Muslims.
    If a monk or pilgrim seeks protection, in mountain or valley, in a cave or in tilled fields, in the plain, in the desert, or in a church, I am behind them, defending them from every enemy; I, my helpers [awani], all the members of my religion [ahl al-millati], and all my followers [atbai], for they [the monks and the pilgrims] are my protégés and my subjects [ahl al-dhimmati].
    I protect them from interference with their supplies and from the payment of taxes save what they willingly renounce. There shall be no compulsion or constraint against them in any of these matters.
    A bishop shall not be removed from his bishopric, nor a monk from his monastery, nor a hermit from his tower [sawma‘], nor shall a pilgrim be hindered from his pilgrimage. Moreover, no building from among their churches [bayt min buyut kanaisihim] shall be destroyed, nor shall the money [mal] from their churches be used for the building of mosques or houses for the Muslims. Whoever does such a thing violates Allah’s covenant [ahd Allah] and dissents from the Messenger of Allah.
    Neither poll-tax [jizyah] nor fees [gharamah] shall be laid on monks [ruhban], bishops [asaqifah], or worshippers for I protect them, wherever they may be, on land or sea, in East and West, in North and South. They are under my protection, within my covenant [mithaqi], and under my security [amani], against all harm [makruh].
    Those who also isolate themselves in the mountains or in sacred sites shall be free from the poll-tax [jizyah], land tribute [kharaj] and from tithe [‘ushr] or duty on whatever they grow for their own use, and they shall be assisted in raising a crop by a free allowance of one qadah [unit of dry measure] in every ardabb [= 6 waiba = 24 rub‘a] for their personal use.
    They shall be not obliged to serve in war, or to pay the poll-tax [jizyah]; even those for whom an obligation to pay land tribute [kharaj] exists, or who possess resources in land or from commercial activity, shall not have to pay more than twelve dirhams a head per year.
    On no one shall an unjust tax be imposed, and with the People of the Book there is to be no strife, unless it be over what is for the good [5:48]. We wish to take them under the wing of our mercy, and the penalty of vexation shall be kept at a distance from them, wherever they are and wherever they may settle.
    If a Christian woman enters a Muslim household, she shall be received with kindness, and she shall be given opportunity to pray in her church; there shall be no dispute between her and a man who loves her religion. Whoever contravenes the covenant of Allah [‘ahd Allah] and acts to the contrary is a rebel against his covenant [mithaqahu] and his Messenger.
    These people shall be assisted in the maintenance of their religious buildings and their dwellings [mawadi‘]; thus they will be aided in their faith and kept true to their allegiance.
    None of them shall be compelled to bear arms, but the Muslims shall defend them; and they shall never contravene this promise of protection until the hour comes and the world ends.
    As witness to this covenant, which was written by Muhammad, son of ‘Abdullah, the Messenger of Allah, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, to all the Christians.
    As sureties for the fulfillment of all that is prescribed herein, the following persons set theirs hands.
    The names of the witnesses:
    ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib
    Abu Bakr ibn Abi Quhafah
    ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab
    ‘Uthman ibn ‘Affan
    Abu al-Darda’
    Abi Hurayrah
    ‘Abd Allah ibn Ma‘sud
    ‘Abbas ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib
    Harith ibn Thabit
    ‘Abd al-‘Azim ibn Hasan
    Fudayl ibn ‘Abbas
    al-Zubayr ibn al-‘Awwam
    Talhah ibn ‘Abd Allah
    Sa‘d ibn Mu‘adh
    Sa‘d ibn ‘Ubadah
    Thabit ibn Nafis
    Zayd ibn Thabit
    Bu Hanifah ibn ‘Ubayyah
    Hashim ibn ‘Ubayyah
    Mu‘azzam ibn Qurashi
    ‘Abd Allah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘As
    ‘Amir ibn Yasin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ego_and_his_own View Post
    Evo ga tekst pa recite ima li dijela koji neki nisu prekrishili.

    THE COVENANT OF THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD WITH THE MONKS OF MOUNT SINAI

    The Covenant of the Prophet Muhammad with the Monks of Mount Sinai
    [By the Prophet Muhammad]
    [Translated by John Andrew Morrow in 2013]
    In the Name of Allah, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful.
    (A copy of the manuscript of the covenant [‘ahd] written by Muhammad, the son of ‘Abd Allah, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, to all the Christians.)
    This covenant [kitabun] was written by Muhammad, the son of ‘Abd Allah, the proclaimer and warner [bashiran wa nadhiran], trusted to protect Allah’s creations [wadi‘at Allah fi khalqihi], in order that people may raise no claim [hujjah] against Allah after [the advent of] His Messengers [rusul] for Allah is Almighty, Wise.
    He has written it for the members of his religion [ahl al-millatihi] and to all those who profess the Christian religion in East and West, near or far, Arabs or non-Arabs [‘ajami], known or unknown, as a covenant of protection.
    If anyone breaks the covenant [‘ahd] herein proclaimed, or contravenes or transgresses its commands, he has broken the Covenant of Allah, breaks his bond, makes a mockery of his religion, deserves the curse, whether he is a sultan or another among the believing Muslims.
    If a monk or pilgrim seeks protection, in mountain or valley, in a cave or in tilled fields, in the plain, in the desert, or in a church, I am behind them, defending them from every enemy; I, my helpers [awani], all the members of my religion [ahl al-millati], and all my followers [atbai], for they [the monks and the pilgrims] are my protégés and my subjects [ahl al-dhimmati].
    I protect them from interference with their supplies and from the payment of taxes save what they willingly renounce. There shall be no compulsion or constraint against them in any of these matters.
    A bishop shall not be removed from his bishopric, nor a monk from his monastery, nor a hermit from his tower [sawma‘], nor shall a pilgrim be hindered from his pilgrimage. Moreover, no building from among their churches [bayt min buyut kanaisihim] shall be destroyed, nor shall the money [mal] from their churches be used for the building of mosques or houses for the Muslims. Whoever does such a thing violates Allah’s covenant [ahd Allah] and dissents from the Messenger of Allah.
    Neither poll-tax [jizyah] nor fees [gharamah] shall be laid on monks [ruhban], bishops [asaqifah], or worshippers for I protect them, wherever they may be, on land or sea, in East and West, in North and South. They are under my protection, within my covenant [mithaqi], and under my security [amani], against all harm [makruh].
    Those who also isolate themselves in the mountains or in sacred sites shall be free from the poll-tax [jizyah], land tribute [kharaj] and from tithe [‘ushr] or duty on whatever they grow for their own use, and they shall be assisted in raising a crop by a free allowance of one qadah [unit of dry measure] in every ardabb [= 6 waiba = 24 rub‘a] for their personal use.
    They shall be not obliged to serve in war, or to pay the poll-tax [jizyah]; even those for whom an obligation to pay land tribute [kharaj] exists, or who possess resources in land or from commercial activity, shall not have to pay more than twelve dirhams a head per year.
    On no one shall an unjust tax be imposed, and with the People of the Book there is to be no strife, unless it be over what is for the good [5:48]. We wish to take them under the wing of our mercy, and the penalty of vexation shall be kept at a distance from them, wherever they are and wherever they may settle.
    If a Christian woman enters a Muslim household, she shall be received with kindness, and she shall be given opportunity to pray in her church; there shall be no dispute between her and a man who loves her religion. Whoever contravenes the covenant of Allah [‘ahd Allah] and acts to the contrary is a rebel against his covenant [mithaqahu] and his Messenger.
    These people shall be assisted in the maintenance of their religious buildings and their dwellings [mawadi‘]; thus they will be aided in their faith and kept true to their allegiance.
    None of them shall be compelled to bear arms, but the Muslims shall defend them; and they shall never contravene this promise of protection until the hour comes and the world ends.
    As witness to this covenant, which was written by Muhammad, son of ‘Abdullah, the Messenger of Allah, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, to all the Christians.
    As sureties for the fulfillment of all that is prescribed herein, the following persons set theirs hands.
    The names of the witnesses:
    ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib
    Abu Bakr ibn Abi Quhafah
    ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab
    ‘Uthman ibn ‘Affan
    Abu al-Darda’
    Abi Hurayrah
    ‘Abd Allah ibn Ma‘sud
    ‘Abbas ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib
    Harith ibn Thabit
    ‘Abd al-‘Azim ibn Hasan
    Fudayl ibn ‘Abbas
    al-Zubayr ibn al-‘Awwam
    Talhah ibn ‘Abd Allah
    Sa‘d ibn Mu‘adh
    Sa‘d ibn ‘Ubadah
    Thabit ibn Nafis
    Zayd ibn Thabit
    Bu Hanifah ibn ‘Ubayyah
    Hashim ibn ‘Ubayyah
    Mu‘azzam ibn Qurashi
    ‘Abd Allah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘As
    ‘Amir ibn Yasin
    mozes li da mi prevedes ovo, slaba sam sa engleskim. hvala.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goozica View Post
    mozes li da mi prevedes ovo, slaba sam sa engleskim. hvala.

    To je dokument koji je Prorok Muhamed potpisao i ostavio na cuvanje u manastiru na Sinaju u kojem pruza veliku zastitu Hriscanima i naziva ih svojim gradjanima. Stavku po stavku je naveo cega treba Muslimani da se uzdrze i kako treba da se ophode prema hriscanima u raznim situacijama od njihovog prava da posjecuju svoje crkve i praktikuju vjeru do neplacanja poreza i slicno.

    Muhamed je zaista bio veliki covjek! Moje veliko postovanje prema njemu kao covjeku! On je poslednji prorok koji ce nam doci sto znaci da ono sto je proreceno hriscanima blizu.


    Evo dio je odje preveden

    http://balkanbreakingnews.com/pismo-...skim-monasima/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ego_and_his_own View Post
    To je dokument koji je Prorok Muhamed potpisao i ostavio na cuvanje u manastiru na Sinaju u kojem pruza veliku zastitu Hriscanima i naziva ih svojim gradjanima. Stavku po stavku je naveo cega treba Muslimani da se uzdrze i kako treba da se ophode prema hriscanima u raznim situacijama od njihovog prava da posjecuju svoje crkve i praktikuju vjeru do neplacanja poreza i slicno.

    Muhamed je zaista bio veliki covjek! Moje veliko postovanje prema njemu kao covjeku! On je poslednji prorok koji ce nam doci sto znaci da ono sto je proreceno hriscanima blizu.


    Evo dio je odje preveden

    http://balkanbreakingnews.com/pismo-...skim-monasima/
    baš je divno besjedio... šteta što je pismo ostalo samo eksponat.

    Niko od nacije(muslimana) ne smije da se ogluši o ovaj zavjet do poslednjeg dana (kraja svijeta).
    gdje mogu da nađem više o kraju svijeta?
    nothing comes from violence and nothing ever could

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    Quote Originally Posted by goozica View Post
    gdje mogu da nađem više o kraju svijeta?
    Pogledaj oko sebe, svud đe odeš i sve što vidiš je prikaz kraja, svijet samo propada i degradira se grijehom ljudskim. Šta se sve danas zlo i naopako dešava, sve ćešče i masovnije?
    Ima dosta materijala online, teorija, razmatranja, shvatanja itd.

    Pitanje razumijevanja svih tih dešavanja, je najvažnije i najkomplikovanije.
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    wtf????
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCjwxItb_p4
    Les chiens aboient, la caravane passe.

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    I meni je postalo jasno. Nema vjere dje korupcija nije po srijedi. I sve ovo sto se zbiva u svijetu je iskusenje.

    I po ugledu na pricu o Job-u Ayyub-u moze se razumjeti sve. Covjeka koga je Bog dobrim ucinio, nema te muke i nevolje koja ga moze zadesiti da ga od toga uzvrati.

    A bez testiranja zivotnog nemoze se ni pokazat kakav je ko. Jel ko Pop, Imam ili Rabin da bi bezobzirno profitira od toga ili da bi vjeru pravu propovjedao. Tako isto je i za sve sledbenike knjige.
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    jesi li se to nazvao intelektualcem ahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaahahhahahahahahhahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahhaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaahahahahhahahahahah ahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahhahahahhahahahhahahhah ahhahahahahahah ahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa ahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahhah ahahhahahahhahahhahahhahahahahahah

    GASI FORUM to je to...

    Covjek koji ne umije da sastavi pravilnu recenicu kaze za sebe da je intelektualac
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf_White View Post
    jesi li se to nazvao intelektualcem ahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaahahhahahahahahhahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahhaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaahahahahhahahahahah ahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahhahahahhahahahhahahhah ahhahahahahahah ahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa ahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahhah ahahhahahahhahahhahahhahahahahahah

    GASI FORUM to je to...

    Covjek koji ne umije da sastavi pravilnu recenicu kaze za sebe da je intelektualac
    To je nista. U najmanju ruku vise ne tvrdi da je IZABRAN. Kao Neo!
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    Uvijek ista ekipa od par forumaša usiljeno forsira ove teme. Da nije njih par, ovih troll tema ne bi ni bilo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    Uvijek ista ekipa od par forumaša usiljeno forsira ove teme. Da nije njih par, ovih troll tema ne bi ni bilo.
    Bukvalno tako, Zaglupljivanje-glupog, Zaluđivanje-ludog... sjajan način za ubijanje dosade bez da se išta postigne, jer poznato je da sijalica bolje lumen daje kada vjeruješ u to... kao u jambu što se potajno nadaš da će tvoje kocke doć, dok jezivo ubijaš vrijeme - i svoje i onoga pored sebe.

    Zelim vam samo jedno, a to su dvije stvari: "rad, red i disciplinu".

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    Sad sam ja kriv sto vi trolujete i pisete na temu koja vas ne zanima. Kakve dubijoze... Ajde nadjoite nesto sto vas stvarno interesuje pa tamo idite i uzivajte. Sta se zamarate odje.

    No ce prije bit da je nesto drugo istina.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ego_and_his_own View Post
    Sad sam ja kriv sto vi trolujete i pisete na temu koja vas ne zanima. Kakve dubijoze... Ajde nadjoite nesto sto vas stvarno interesuje pa tamo idite i uzivajte. Sta se zamarate odje.

    No ce prije bit da je nesto drugo istina.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Separatista View Post
    Izmedju I i O se ne pishe J.
    Ovu gramatičku grešku sam i ja vidio, ljudi se opuste, ipak je ovo forum, neće se odavde objavljivati direktno književni eseji i slično. Vidio sam slične greške u kucanju u svom tekstu, zatim i kod mnogih drugih, čak i kod funestisa! Ali nije sporno, dešava se. Ljudi su skloni tome da griješe. Lijepo je što si mu ljubazno skrenuo pažnju na taj detalj, imaće to na umu sigurno.

    Edit: Eno vidiš kako ti se i on lijepo zahvalio. Lijepo je činjet dobro, zlo je naopako i pogrešno.
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