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    Upravo tako. Cak mu je na jednoj trci otpao komad gume o.O

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    Nego... Jel vidio ko Lorenza?

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    http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/220...-incident.html

    Evo i zvanicnog rezultata istrage - zakljuceno je da je racing incident i da Rossi nije dobio prednost; jer Markez ni u jednom momentu nije bio ispred Rossija.

    Markez ne zna pravila ocigledno:

    Rossi said: "My view is that I am in front and Marc touched the middle of my bike. His touch pushed me outside the track".

    Marquez said: "I studied perfectly the last chicane, how to put the bike in the correct place, but OK I didn't expect he would cut! In the end, what I feel is that we won the race."

    Asked who would have won without the contact, Rossi commented “I was in front”, while Marquez responded “I was on the inside!”

    Markez je ocigledno navikao da pocne preticanje po unutrasnjoj liniji i da vozac ispred MORA da se skloni. To je mozda prolazilo u 125cc, ali u MotoGP kod Rossija ne prolazi.
    Evo i sto je Webb izjavio:

    “We've obviously reviewed the incident from all the camera angles we have. The decision is racing incident. No advantage was gained,” Webb told Crash.net. “The basis of that decision is primarily the helicopter shot that shows at every stage Valentino was ahead. So Valentino had the right to the line.

    So Valentino was ahead. He was not passed. As they reached the apex of the right-hand turn Marc touched Valentino, which made [Valentino] go wide. So that's a racing incident. It's unavoidable.

    “The two balancing things are that it was a hard pass with contact and you are not allowed to push another rider off the line. But the end result was that they entered and exited that series of corners in the same position. No advantage gained. End of story.”

    Evo i slike:









    Sto ono rece Markez? Da je detaljno prostudirao overtake i tu konkretnu krivinu? Pa bas je fino prostudirao! Vidi na slici br 3 kako je uhvatio krivinu - nije uspio da se zadrzi na asfaltu nego je cak i presao preko trave!? I po njemu je to normalan overtake?

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    o cemu pricas druze, oni su imali kontakt, to je totalno druga prica, zbog toga je i i ispao malo na travu markez, da nije bilo kontakta vjerovatno nebi ispao.
    istrajan budi.

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    Nisam siguran da bi se zadrzao na asfaltu. Vec prilikom kocenja mu je zadnji tocak setao po stazi; sto se i vidi na prvo slici da "poprecke" ulazi u krivinu.
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    Ti kada prvi put gledas markeza kako vozi, on u 70% krivina ulazi tako poprecke, prepoznatljiv je po tom nacinu voznje

    poslato paukom
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    OK, ajmo malo na salu da okrenemo:




    ^^haahhahaha

    Mada, cijela voznja Rosija i Markeza je bila odlicna. Da nije bilo Markeza - bila bi dosadna trka. Ono sto mi je zasmetalo je to da je MM u zadnjoj krivni bio opasan:

    1) mogao je da izbaci i sebe i Rossija iz trke....i da Lorenzo pobijedi i utekne im za ~24 boda
    2) mogao je da Rossija izbaci
    3) mogao je sebe da izbaci

    Odlicno se zavrsilo kad niko nije povrijedjen. Pogledaj snimak Assen 2006 - Edwards vs Hayden. Edvards je uletio po unutrasnjoj liniji, i istjerao Heydena po sljunku. Heyden je zavrsio trku, a Edvards je izletio po travi, proklizao i zakucao se u gume. Nije bilo kontakta izmedju njih dvojice, ali ipak Edvards nije uspio da se zadrzi na stazi.

    Jos nesto - da nema Markeza, Pedrose i Lorenza - Rossi bi se penzionisao. Nije mu izazov da vozi protiv Bautiste, Barbere i ostalih. Ova pobrojana trojica su vanzemaljci! Ovako, dok se buca sa Markezom po stazi - ostace dovoljno dugo!

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    neka je dobio rossi, zasluzeno ga je pretekao i svaka cast rosiju, ali markez je izjavio da se ne zadovoljava nicim osim prvog mjesta, zbog toga je i toliko napadao i upirao i ucinio trku znatno zanimljivijom, za razliku od onih proslih 4,5 trka dje lorenzo prvi krene i tako ostane, dosadno brate, ova dvojica su se klala citavu trku i totalna je banja bilo ih gledat, dobro je samo sto niko nije pao sa motora.
    istrajan budi.

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    supak mali mi sve vise i vise ide na nerve.
    Rossi ja je krasila drskost tokom karijere i znao je da ide malo ostrije u duele, al ovakve stvari nije radio.
    ovo je vec drugi put da Markes ide ovako na njega, srecom se oba puta dobro zavrsilo za Rossija.
    da ne pricamo o tome da se na prolsu trku Markez za dlaku zakucao u Lorenca.
    zabolje mene sto je on ispao iz konkurencije za titulu ove godine pa ne razmislja puno o posledicama, al mu to ne daje za pravo da ovakvim potezima unisti sezonu Rossiju...

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    nemoj se nervirat zbog markeza, ipak kolko god da je u pitanju ljubav prema sportu ne treba trosit zivce
    istrajan budi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1ucid View Post
    nemoj se nervirat zbog markeza, ipak kolko god da je u pitanju ljubav prema sportu ne treba trosit zivce
    trosim ih samo kad je Rossi u pitanju.
    ja njega gledam kao na clana porodice, bukvalno.
    ne znam bih li se vise nervirao da je na njegovom mjestu, recimo, @nimfa!

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    Oces da kazes da ti je miliji rossi od nimfe

    poslato paukom
    istrajan budi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1ucid View Post
    Oces da kazes da ti je miliji rossi od nimfe

    poslato paukom
    nije vala.
    Vale nam je kao stariji brat, ozbiljan i strog.
    volimo ga i postujemo na jedan poseban nacin!

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    @1ucid
    promijeni ovaj avatar da te ne trazim po Starom!

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    markez #1
    rossi #2

    istrajan budi.

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    cekao si da @nimfa podje za Kanadu pa da stavis ovo!
    nije proslo nezapazeno, odma da ti kazem!

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    jos malo ces me teroristom proglasit, navijam za markeza, najjaci je uz rosija naravno, tu su nedje
    istrajan budi.

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    salim se, naravno.
    bolje za njega, u svakom slucaju, nego za smrdu Lorenca.

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    Хахаха мораћемо догодине једну трку заједно сви одгледати

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    Sate sate sate

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    A lorenzo je stvarno nesto odvratan lik, antipatican.

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    Ne znam da li ste nakon trke hladne glave onratili paznju na detaljnu analizu vremena koje su pravili Rossi i Marke (na to ne mozes analiticki obratiti paznju tokom trke):

    Pocetak trke je bio brz (da bi se odvojili od ostalih vozaca). Zatim Markez i Rossi voze sporije (oko 1-1.5 sec po krugu). Tu ga je Doctor detaljno ispitao gdje je brzi a gdje sporiji od Markeza (dok je vozio iza njega). Na nekih 5 krugova prije kraja trke Rossi krece u napad i u jednom krugu bjezi Markezu oko pola sekunde; Markez taj zaostatak drzi na oko 0.4 - 0.5 sec. Znaci, kad je Rossi napao, vremena po krugu su se spustila oko 1,5 sec.

    Rossiju svaka cast jer je vozio sa ovom kombinacijom guma:
    Front: soft
    Rear: medium

    Dok je Markez i vecina ostalih vozio na medium+medium gumama.

    E sad, Rossiju meka prednja guma izdrzava cijelu trku (+ pobjedjuje). I najbrzi licni krug pravi na samom kraju trke (kad je bjezao Markezu).

    Moguce da je Rosiju pogodovala nova Yamahina sasija - da je bolja za gume.

    ____________________

    A sad jedno razmisljanje: da je Markez kojim slucajem pratio Lorenza iz prethodne 4 trke (ili Pedrosu kad je u elementu) - sredinom trke ne bi imali sporija vremena za 1-1.5 sec nego bi bio pun gas pa ko od njih 2 napravi gresku i ispadne.

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    A Markez i za Njemacku najavljuje isti Assen: http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/22065...sen-drama.html

    MotoGP » Marquez: Expect more of the same Assen drama
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    Repsol Honda's Marc Marquez says he is looking forward to serving up more of the dramatic action that lit up the Dutch TT at Assen.

    The reigning MotoGP world champion battled throughout with Valentino Rossi in a pulsating race that ended with Rossi ploughing through the gravel on the final lap at the chicane after the pair touched.

    Marquez had to settle for the runner-up spot behind Rossi but seemed back to his best after using the 2014 chassis on the Honda with the new HRC swingarm.

    “Assen was something! It was a very complete weekend, but overall, I think it was very nice and spectacular for the fans,” Marquez said.

    “For me, it was important at this GP to be able to feel comfortable during all the practice sessions and to work well with the new chassis. And that's how it was.

    “The team worked very hard always, setting their minds on having the best set-up for the race on Saturday. I'm very thankful and grateful to all of them because I felt great on the bike.

    “On Friday, we were really close to taking the pole position. What a shame! The truth is that Valentino deserved it as he gave a solid performance throughout the weekend,” Marquez added on his boxrepsol.com blog.

    “During the race, I had a good start and a good pace, so Valentino and I were able to separate ourselves from the group.

    “We were wheel-to-wheel throughout the 26 laps, and those are the races that get the fans most excited, so I look forward to giving them more of that.

    “It was the last time that a race on Saturday was going to take place in Assen and thanks to the exciting memory of this race I will never forget,” he added.

    “In any case, the most important thing is that the vibe was great during the three days. We returned to the podium to fight for the victory, and that was our goal from the beginning.”
    Last edited by .:.; 02-07-15 at 17:09.

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    Negdje natrčah na Lorencov intervju, kaže da Assen više pogoduje Hondi nego Yamahi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Runner View Post
    Negdje natrčah na Lorencov intervju, kaže da Assen više pogoduje Hondi nego Yamahi.
    nadji taj intervju, bas me zanima.
    ja sam cuo upravo suprotno.
    "staza ne obiluje prevelikim brojem pravaca gdje bi do izrazaja dolazila snaga honde sto odgovara jamahi" kaze izmedju ostalog u tim navodima...

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